Dáil debates
Wednesday, 4 March 2015
Order of Business
12:30 pm
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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It is proposed to take No. 17, motion re membership of committee; No. 9, Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2015 - Second Stage (resumed); and No. 42, statements on the dairy sector, to be taken not later than 5.30 p.m. It is proposed, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, that in the event a division is in progress at the time fixed for taking Private Members' business, Standing Order 121(3) shall not apply and the Dáil shall adjourn on the conclusion of Private Members' business, which shall be No. 73, Family Home Mortgage Settlement Arrangement Bill 2014 – Second Stage (resumed), and shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion after 90 minutes; No. 17 shall be decided without debate; and the following arrangements shall apply in regard to No. 42: the statement of a Minister or Minister of State and of the main spokespersons for Fianna Fáil, Sinn Féin and the Technical Group, who shall be called upon in that order, shall not exceed 15 minutes in each case, and such Members may share time; the statement of each other Member called upon shall not exceed ten minutes in each case; and a Minister or Minister of State shall be called upon to make a statement in reply which shall not exceed five minutes.
Tomorrow's business after Oral Questions shall be No. 2, Betting (Amendment) Bill 2013 - amendments from the Seanad; and No. 3, Gender Recognition Bill 2014 [Seanad] - Second Stage.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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There are three proposals to put to the House. Is the proposal for dealing with Private Members' business agreed to? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with No. 7, motion re membership of committee, to be taken without debate, agreed to? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with No. 42, statements on the dairy sector, agreed to? Agreed.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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Tá geallúint i gclár an Rialtais an méid daltaí atá ag tabhairt faoin Ghaolainn san Ardteist ag ardleibhéal a dhúbailt le linn tréimhse an Rialtais. Conas atá ag éirí leis an Rialtas maidir leis an geallúint sin? Cé mhéad daltaí atá ag déanamh an Ghaolainn ag ardleibhéal san Ardteist faoi láthair? Maraon le sin, tá sé soiléir sa chlár Rialtais go gcuirfeadh cláir infheistíochta i bhfeidhm ionas go mbeadh an Ghaolainn ar fáil i bhfad níos éasca do thromlach na ndaoine. Ar tharla é sin?
Cathain a bheidh an Acht Teangacha Oifigiúla tríd na Dála? Deirtear sa chlár Rialtais chomh maith go mbeidh an Rialtas ag tabhairt faoi chéimeanna chun múineadh na Gaeilge a dhéanamh níos éifeachtaí agus níos fearr agus é a fheabhsú, agus, nuair a bheadh sé sin déanta, go mbeadh an Rialtas sásta machnamh a dhéanamh ar chóir an Ghaolainn a bheith riachtanach don Ardteist. Ní aontaím le sin ach sin atá sa chlár Rialtais. Cad é tuairim an Taoisigh maidir le sin ag an babtha seo? An bhfuil an Rialtas chun aon chinneadh a dhéanamh ar sin sna míonna agus sa bhlian atá le teacht?
Dúirt an tAire, an Teachta Brendan Howlin, ag an deireadh seachtain gurb an botún is mó a dhein an Rialtas, dar leis, ná deireadh a chur leis na comhairlí bailte ar fud na tíre. Bhíos i gCathair na Mart an Aoine seo caite. Bhí díomá an domhain ar thromlach na ndaoine go bhfuil deireadh curtha leis an gcomhairle bailte a bhí ann. Tá an tuairim mar an gcéanna ar fud na tíre. Cathain a bheidh an reachtaíocht ag teacht ós comhair na Dála chun an cinneadh sin a athrú agus na comhairlí bailte a thabhairt ar ais. Dúirt an tAire, an Teachta Howlin, go gcaithfidh an Rialtas an cinneadh sin a athrú agus iad a thabhairt ar ais. Cathain a bheidh an reachtaíocht againn?
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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Ba thuairim pearsanta an Aire an thuairim sin. Tá cinneadh déanta ag an Rialtas maidir le seo agus níl an cinneadh sin le hathrú. Beidh Acht na dTeangacha Oifigiúla á thabhairt isteach i mbliana. Tá sé sa chlár reachtúil. Is féidir leis an Teachta ceist a chur ar an Aire Stáit faoin obair atá déanta ó thaobh ardú céime a thabhairt don Ghaeilge agus an infheistíocht atá á dhéanamh ionas go mbeidh an Ghaeilge ar fáil go coitianta ag huile duine ar fud na tíre.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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An bhfuil aon tuairim ag an Taoiseach é féin?
Aengus Ó Snodaigh (Dublin South Central, Sinn Fein)
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Tá ceist agam maidir leis an gCoinbhinsiún Bunreachtúil. Foilsíodh an tuairisc dheireanach acu anuraidh, measaim an lá deireanach de mhí an Mhárta an bhliain seo caite. Tá beagnach 12 mí imithe tharainn ach fós nílimid tar éis 14, nó ar a laghad 13, tuairisc a phlé. Gealladh dúinn go mbeadh díospóireacht nó, ar a laghad, freagra ón Rialtas againn lastigh de cheithre mhí ó foilsíodh na tuairiscí. Faoin am seo, is masla é dóibh siúd a ghlac páirt ann. Is mise duine acusan. Experiment maith a bhí ann. Mhol mé é ag an am agus ba chóir é a dhéanamh arís, ach ní fiú tráithnín é muna bhfuilimid sásta cloí leis an amchlár. Cén uair a bheidh díospóireacht againn sa Teach maidir le cearta vóta a thabhairt do shaoránaigh ina gcónaí lasmuigh den Stát, leasú a dhéanamh ar an Dáil agus cearta eacnamaíochta, sóisialta agus cultúrtha? Chomh maith le san, cathain a bheidh díospóireacht againn faoin gá do choinbhinsiún eile chun déileáil le ceisteanna móra eile a bhfuil fós le plé.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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Thug me freagra ar an cheist seo cúpla seachtain ó shin. Tá obair ar siúl faoi láthair i gcuid de na Ranna maidir leis an gceist seo. Thug mé geallúint, nuair a bheidh sé sin déanta, go mbeidh an Príomh-Aoire ag tabhairt na tuarascáil chuig na Dála ionas go mbeadh díospóireachtaí ann. Tabharfaidh mé tuilleadh eolais don Teachta nuair a bheidh sé agam.
Aengus Ó Snodaigh (Dublin South Central, Sinn Fein)
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Tá sé seo á rá ag an Rialtas ó mí Iúil an bhliain seo caite. Cuirtear an cheist uair sa seachtain. Ní an fhreasúra amháin atá ag cur na ceiste ach tá Teachtaí ar bhinsí an Rialtais ag cur na ceiste chomh maith. Níl sé maith go leor ag an staid seo nach bhfuil dáta ann maidir le díospóireacht ar na tuairiscí sin. An rud a chuala muideanna ná go raibh na cinnte déanta lastigh de na Ranna agus go bhfuil an locht orthu san. Ní freagra iomlán é an freagra a thug an Taoiseach. Tá fios agamsa go bhfuil na Ranna críochnaithe le seo. Is don Teach seo an cinneadh a dhéanamh agus ní na Ranna. Ba chóir don Aoire glacadh le seo agus na tuairiscí a chur faoi bhráid na Dála chún iad a phlé. Ba chóir don Taoiseach iarradh ar an Príomh-Aoire é sin a dhéanamh.
Noel Grealish (Galway West, Independent)
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Some months ago I brought to the Taoiseach's attention the case of an 86 year old man in my constituency who is in agony waiting for a hip replacement operation at University Hospital Galway.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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We cannot discuss individual cases on the Order of Business.
Noel Grealish (Galway West, Independent)
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Following the announcement by the Minister for Health that all elective surgery would be cancelled, this man has been told he cannot be given a date for his operation. His is one of many similar cases throughout the country. There is a need for major reform of the health service to ensure people are not left at home in agony.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy should put down a Topical Issue matter.
Noel Grealish (Galway West, Independent)
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When will the health reform Bill be brought before the House to address these issues?
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I do not have a date for publication of that Bill, but I understand a great deal of work is being done on it. I will advise the Deputy of the progress made.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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Are the Taoiseach and the Minister for Justice and Equality aware of the serious human resources and staffing issues at Muintir na Tíre, which runs the community alert programme? This is a very important function given the rise in crime.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Does the Deputy ever stick to what is relevant to the Order of Business?
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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I am doing so.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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No, the Deputy is not.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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I am asking when the Garda Síochána (policing authority and miscellaneous provisions) Bill will be brought forward.
Second, will the Taoiseach and the Minister allow more time for a decent debate on the Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015? A Bill with 172 sections cannot be debated, understood and dealt with by Members in the time allocated.
Jerry Buttimer (Cork South Central, Fine Gael)
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Deputy McGrath is scaremongering.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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I am not scaremongering. We would need a whole range of extra staff just to help us deal with the amendments.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy should raise this issue with the Whips.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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The legislation is being rushed through the House with indecent haste.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I have asked the Deputy to take it up with the Whips.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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I am asking the Minister to do something about it.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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As Deputy McGrath is aware, 60 Members contributed to the debate on Second Stage, and the Bill will go before committee tomorrow. He is free to make a contribution if he so wishes.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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I will do so.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The Garda Síochána (policing authority and miscellaneous provisions) Bill is due to be brought forward in this session and will be dealt with.
12:40 pm
Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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The Minister for Health, Deputy Varadkar, was on the airwaves this morning talking about the new health levy that will see a significant increase in private health insurance premiums for older people taking out private health insurance. It appears to be designed to scare people into taking out private health insurance.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Hold on a second Deputy, this is the Order of Business.
Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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Is it the Taoiseach's intention to give Members a chance to discuss this in the Dáil? Is legislation forthcoming in this regard because-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Take it up through the Whips.
Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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-----the Minister seems to be acting like a tout for the private health insurance industry?
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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One second. I call Deputy Ferris.
Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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I asked whether legislation is proposed.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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About what legislation is the Deputy asking?
Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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I am asking whether there is legislation in respect of the-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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No, this is about legislation promised.
Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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The Minister made a statement today.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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You cannot simply ask whether there will be legislation. I am sorry.
Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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The Minister made a statement today saying that some-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Put down a Topical Issue matter or ask a question. It is not a matter for the Order of Business.
Martin Ferris (Kerry North-West Limerick, Sinn Fein)
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In recent weeks, I having been trying to get some redress from the Minister, Deputy Kelly, with regard to a huge erosion problem on Banna Beach. To show the Taoiseach the-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Hold on a second Deputy. You are out of order as well.
Martin Ferris (Kerry North-West Limerick, Sinn Fein)
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It is under legislation and I will come to it.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Hold on a second.
Joe Carey (Clare, Fine Gael)
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It is a fine beach.
Martin Ferris (Kerry North-West Limerick, Sinn Fein)
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As the Taoiseach can see, there-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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No, you cannot display documentation in the Chamber.
Martin Ferris (Kerry North-West Limerick, Sinn Fein)
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-----is a 30 ft. gap between the sea and this bay here.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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You know that as well as anything. I am sorry.
Martin Ferris (Kerry North-West Limerick, Sinn Fein)
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A consequence, if there is a breakthrough, it is only 30 ft. or 10 m-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Sorry Deputy, this is the Order of Business. Would you put down a question or a Topical Issue matter?
Martin Ferris (Kerry North-West Limerick, Sinn Fein)
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-----the entire population of Carrahane is in danger of being taken over by the sea. I have it under legislation, if the Ceann Comhairle would give me time to finish, please.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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No-----
Martin Ferris (Kerry North-West Limerick, Sinn Fein)
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Just one second; give me time to finish. I am not going to be shut up by anybody.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Excuse me.
Martin Ferris (Kerry North-West Limerick, Sinn Fein)
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Sorry?
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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You will obey the Chair like everybody else.
Martin Ferris (Kerry North-West Limerick, Sinn Fein)
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Yes.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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You are no exception by the way.
Martin Ferris (Kerry North-West Limerick, Sinn Fein)
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I am entitled to make my point.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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You are no exception.
Martin Ferris (Kerry North-West Limerick, Sinn Fein)
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I am trying to get answers.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I have the job of trying to keep order in this Chamber-----
Martin Ferris (Kerry North-West Limerick, Sinn Fein)
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I have been trying to get answers for three weeks and have been asking what will be done.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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-----and I apply the rules equally.
Martin Ferris (Kerry North-West Limerick, Sinn Fein)
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Thousands of tonnes of sand have been taken from Banna and taken to a golf club.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Thank you.
Martin Ferris (Kerry North-West Limerick, Sinn Fein)
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There is a gap here from coastal erosion.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Would you please resume your seat and put down a Topical Issue matter about it? Thank you.
Martin Ferris (Kerry North-West Limerick, Sinn Fein)
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It is under the maritime area and foreshore (amendment) Bill.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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When is the foreshore (amendment) Bill due?
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I hope it is not the golf club in front of the Deputy's own house.
Martin Ferris (Kerry North-West Limerick, Sinn Fein)
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Sorry?
Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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Members are not worried about the golf club.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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That Bill is due for this session.
Peter Fitzpatrick (Louth, Fine Gael)
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Noise nuisance caused by neighbours makes up the vast majority of noise complaints in Ireland. To prevent and reduce such nuisance, it is necessary to extend and improve the powers available to local authorities.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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There is no need for an introduction. About what Bill are we talking?
Peter Fitzpatrick (Louth, Fine Gael)
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The noise nuisance Bill.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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When is that due?
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I do not have a date for that Bill. I will advise Deputy Fitzpatrick of the work being undertaken.
Barry Cowen (Laois-Offaly, Fianna Fail)
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Will the water services Bill predate the decision of the Central Statistics Office, CSO, with regard to its submission to EUROSTAT on the entire construct of Irish Water? I would have thought the water services Bill should have predated any decision, considering that the Government has stated it consulted with the CSO before last November, when it made its climb-downs.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Taoiseach, on the water services Bill.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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Is the Deputy asking about the market corporation test?
Barry Cowen (Laois-Offaly, Fianna Fail)
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Yes.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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Why did the Deputy not ask that then?
Barry Cowen (Laois-Offaly, Fianna Fail)
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I am asking the Taoiseach whether the water services Bill will predate it or if the CSO will make a decision in its absence, which would seem ridiculous in the extreme.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I dealt with this yesterday and Deputy Sean Fleming got a letter about it. The CSO prepares its documentation and is engaged with EUROSTAT, which is independent. The CSO document will be published and sent to EUROSTAT, which makes its own decision completely independently.
Barry Cowen (Laois-Offaly, Fianna Fail)
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I would have thought that the water services Bill and what was contained therein-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Sorry, this is not a matter for the Order of Business. We cannot have a debate on this. I called Deputy Troy.
Barry Cowen (Laois-Offaly, Fianna Fail)
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-----would be important information for the CSO.
Robert Troy (Longford-Westmeath, Fianna Fail)
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I wish to inquire about a couple of legislative items. There have been 70 submissions made in respect of the Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill 2013. When will this be brought before the Houses of the Oireachtas? Second, national vetting legislation was passed more than two years ago. The Taoiseach undertook to consult with the Department of Justice and Equality as to why the commencement order is yet to be signed. I still await information as to why the commencement order was not signed despite this being promised a number of weeks ago. I do not know what postal service the Taoiseach is using but the letters are not going out nearly as quickly as he advised they would. Third, in respect of the guidelines for wind energy, both the Taoiseach and the Tánaiste have promised they would advise me and other Deputies. When can Members expect the finalised, comprehensive wind energy guidelines?
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The Ministers for the Environment, Community and Local Government and Communications, Energy and Natural Resources are working on the final issues in so far as regulations pertaining to wind energy are concerned. I must revert to Deputy Troy in respect of the Assisted Decision-Making (Capacity) Bill. There have been quite a number of submissions received on it and obviously, it has not come back for finalisation yet. I also will advise in respect of the national vetting commencement order.
Jerry Buttimer (Cork South Central, Fine Gael)
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An bhfuil a fhios ag an Taoiseach cathain a bheidh dréachtpholasaí eitlíochta foilsithe? An mbeidh seans againn an polasaí sin, atá i ndréachtfhormáid anois, a phlé sa Teach seo?
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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On flight policy.
Jerry Buttimer (Cork South Central, Fine Gael)
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Is ea. The national aviation draft policy.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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Níor tháinig sé sin roimh an Rialtais go dtí seo chun cinneadh cinnte a dhéanamh faoi. Is féidir liom a rá go mbeidh cead ag an Teachta agus an Teach díospóireachtaí faoi a bheith acu nuair a bheidh sé foilsithe.
Michelle Mulherin (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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Cathain a bheidh an Criminal Justice (Spent Convictions) Bill 2012 anseo arís ionas go mbeimid in ann dul chun cinn a dhéanamh leis an mBille?
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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Níl an dáta cinnte ar fhios agam, ach cuirfidh mé scéal chuig an Teachta faoi.
Bernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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I wish to inquire of An Taoiseach the current position in respect of the mediation Bill, which is promised legislation and which has extensive implications. When is it likely to come before the House? Will it be in the current year? Similarly, I refer to the defence (amendment) Bill, which is to revise the Defence Forces Acts regarding the deployment of Irish troops overseas. When is that Bill likely to come before the House and will Members have sight of it before the end of this year?
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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While I do not have a date for the defence (amendment) Bill, the mediation Bill will be introduced later this year.