Dáil debates
Wednesday, 17 October 2012
Order of Business
11:00 am
Brendan Howlin (Wexford, Labour)
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It is proposed to take No. 4, Education and Training Boards Bill 2012 - Second Stage (resumed); No.1, Health (Pricing and Supply of Medical Goods) Bill 2012 Seanad - Second Stage; and Private Members' business shall be No. 64, motion re home help cuts (resumed), to conclude at 9 p.m. if not previously concluded.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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Will the Minister outline the legislative timeline for the establishment of the strategic investment bank and for the legislation on the promised amendment to the Official Secrets Act?
Despite the Tánaiste and the Taoiseach giving a clear commitment that all of the documentation in respect of the selection of primary care centres would be made available to the House and despite the fact that I have tabled freedom of information requests, I have not yet received the documentation. It has been weeks. When will the reform of the Freedom of Information Act be before the House? We would like to amend aspects of the Act to ensure that it cannot be used as a shield by the Government to prevent information from reaching Deputies quickly and effectively. We have been waiting six months to get vital information on significant policy decisions of the Government.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I have given the Deputy some latitude.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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Everything gets referred to freedom of information. When will the legislation be before the House?
Brendan Howlin (Wexford, Labour)
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The Deputy asked about three Bills and also asked a general question. As the Deputy knows, the Government established the strategic investment fund. It has been commenced and is leveraging money as a fund to be made available to defined sectors of the economy. The legislation for it to migrate to a bank will be introduced next year.
There is no date yet for the amendment to the Official Secrets Act as proposed in the programme for Government. The freedom of information (amendment) Bill is in my area of responsibility and forms part of a suite of transformational legislation, including the register of lobbyists, the extension of the remit of the Ombudsman, which is before the Seanad, and-----
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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There is nothing transformational about the current practice.
Brendan Howlin (Wexford, Labour)
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-----a range of other matters. As the Deputy knows, the heads of the Bill have been approved by the Government and we are awaiting drafting.
In terms of freedom of information, one of the objectives of the amendment is to undo the narrowing of the terms of the freedom of information legislation which Fianna Fáil enacted.
11:10 am
Frances Fitzgerald (Dublin Mid West, Fine Gael)
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It is what the Deputy's party did.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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We are not getting any information.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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We cannot have a discussion now.
Brendan Howlin (Wexford, Labour)
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We intend to have that Bill before the House as soon as possible.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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May we have the documentation on the primary care centres?
Alan Shatter (Dublin South, Fine Gael)
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If there is difficulty it is because of legislation which the Deputy's party enacted.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I call Deputy Adams.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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It is not.
Alan Shatter (Dublin South, Fine Gael)
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The Deputy's party diluted the Act.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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We will not have a conversation across the floor on a matter of legislation.
Alan Shatter (Dublin South, Fine Gael)
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The Deputy opposite must have been asleep at the Cabinet table when it was happening.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I call Deputy Adams.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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It is wilful and deliberate withholding of information.
Alan Shatter (Dublin South, Fine Gael)
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The Deputy's party-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Minister does not seem to have heard me.
Finian McGrath (Dublin North Central, Independent)
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Hear, hear.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The rules apply to him as everybody else.
Joe Higgins (Dublin West, Socialist Party)
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Put him in restraints.
Gerry Adams (Louth, Sinn Fein)
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I also had a question about the freedom of information Bill and I accept the need for the area to be broadened, given what has been done to it. This follows the debacle regarding primary care centres. Deputy Ó Caoláin and others from my party have asked a range of questions-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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We are not debating the issue. We are dealing with promised legislation.
Gerry Adams (Louth, Sinn Fein)
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Okay. The Minister was unable to say when the Bill would be brought forward.
Brendan Howlin (Wexford, Labour)
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Which Bill?
Gerry Adams (Louth, Sinn Fein)
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It is the amending freedom of information legislation. The Minister should be more precise as the answer he has given is not enough. We have just discussed mortgage debt. When will the Personal Insolvency Bill be returned for Report Stage?
Brendan Howlin (Wexford, Labour)
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With regard to the freedom of information Bill, the practice I have adopted with the suite of legislation is to refer the heads to an appropriate Oireachtas committee so we can have a robust debate. It is a matter for the House to deal with the broadening and deepening of our democracy, and I intend to proceed with that. The commitment in the programme for Government goes much beyond simply undoing the damage done by Fianna Fáil to the Bill enacted the last time we were part of the Government. It extends the legislation to a range of other organisations. I welcome the views of the Opposition in that regard and would be very open to amendments. Committee Stage of the Personal Insolvency Bill has been concluded and it is expected that Report Stage will take place in the House during the first week of November.
Joe Higgins (Dublin West, Socialist Party)
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When will the legislation for the property tax be introduced to the Dáil? Will it be before the budget or after? Is it the intention of the Government to repeal the household tax legislation currently applying before the end of the year or will it be implemented for the first half of next year? The Government has indicated that from 1 July, the property tax will apply.
Does the Government intend to make time available in the Dáil next week for statements and information on the location of and timeline for the construction of the national children's hospital?
Brendan Howlin (Wexford, Labour)
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A great deal of discussion and analysis is ongoing within the Government regarding the property tax. It is expected the announcement will be part of the Budget Statement and the legislation will be subsequent to it. How and when it comes into effect will be a matter to be announced by the Minister for Finance and its interaction with existing legislation will be outlined by the Minister.
The location of the national children's hospital is still being considered by the Minister for Health and he has yet to bring proposals to the Cabinet. I am sure that when the Cabinet has made a decision on the issue, there will be a debate in the House.
Joe Higgins (Dublin West, Socialist Party)
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When will that be?
Brendan Howlin (Wexford, Labour)
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I am unaware of when the Minister will bring the proposal to the Cabinet.
Pádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal North East, Sinn Fein)
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There has been a harrowing report from the Inspector of Prisons. The Minister for Justice and Equality, Deputy Shatter, has indicated there will be primary legislation to deal with the issue so when can we expect it?
Brendan Howlin (Wexford, Labour)
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Reform of the inspectorate regime has been promised. Work is ongoing and the legislation will be introduced next year.
Michael Healy-Rae (Kerry South, Independent)
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With regard to the amalgamation of children detention schools in the interests of costs, administrative efficiencies and the public interest, when will the child care (amendment) Bill come before the House?
Brendan Howlin (Wexford, Labour)
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The Deputy mentioned the amalgamation of detention schools. The legislation will be next year.
Robert Dowds (Dublin Mid West, Labour)
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I raised the noise Bill with the Taoiseach a few weeks ago but unfortunately no date was available. I urge the Cabinet to prioritise this as much as possible as some people's lives have been made miserable because of noise from neighbours.
Brendan Howlin (Wexford, Labour)
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I appreciate what the Deputy says and the issue was raised yesterday on the Order of Business. It is not scheduled for this session but I will bring the Deputy's deep concerns to the attention of the Minister.
Joe Higgins (Dublin West, Socialist Party)
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Will it apply to the Minister for Justice and Equality in the Dáil?
Tommy Broughan (Dublin North East, Labour)
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When can we expect to see the road traffic Bill? Is it intended that there will be further legislation relating to the Garda traffic corps? I understand a training course was organised yesterday.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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This sounds like a good parliamentary question.
Tommy Broughan (Dublin North East, Labour)
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The course dealt with the use of intoxilysers but no gardaí attended. Will there be further legislation relating to the traffic corps? Is it intended to have further legislation relating to the social insurance fund?
Brendan Howlin (Wexford, Labour)
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The road traffic Bill is on the schedule for next year. I understand from the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport that he is hopeful that it might be published before the end of this year. The heads of the Bill have not yet come to the Government. I am unaware of any promised legislation relating to the social insurance fund.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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I am glad the Minister for Justice and Equality is present as I speak with regard to the criminal justice (money laundering and terrorist financing) (amendment) Bill. A man was shot in a village in south Tipperary this morning by gangland criminals.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy may submit this for a Topical Issue debate.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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The Minister knows such action is rife around the country. When will he give the power to the Garda to deal with these people?
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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What is the name of the Bill?
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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It is the criminal justice (money laundering and terrorist financing) (amendment) Bill.
Brendan Howlin (Wexford, Labour)
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That will be early next year.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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That will be too late. When will we see these terrorists being brought off the streets?
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Thank you Deputy.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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They are striking fear into all citizens. Early next year is not good enough.
Paul Kehoe (Wexford, Fine Gael)
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I thank the Deputy. There is a noise Bill pending.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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Gardaí do not even have squad cars.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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It is a serious issue.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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It is serious. A man was shot dead in Golden this morning. It is not funny.
Alan Shatter (Dublin South, Fine Gael)
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It is a pity the Deputy is playing politics with someone being shot dead.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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That is uncalled for.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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I am not. How dare the Minister say that.
Róisín Shortall (Dublin North West, Independent)
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In view of the unsustainable nature of the health insurance regime in this country, what is the reason for the delay with the risk equalisation legislation and when can we expect to see it?
Brendan Howlin (Wexford, Labour)
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The risk equalisation legislation was cleared at the Cabinet yesterday and should be published imminently.