Seanad debates

Tuesday, 12 February 2019

Nithe i dtosach suíonna - Commencement Matters

Passport Applications

2:30 pm

Photo of Gerry HorkanGerry Horkan (Fianna Fail)
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I welcome the Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade, Deputy McEntee.

Photo of Fintan WarfieldFintan Warfield (Sinn Fein)
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I thank the Cathaoirleach for selecting this Commencement matter. I was contacted recently by an Irish woman whose British wife recently gave birth to their son, who was conceived through assisted human reproduction methods. They are both legally recognised as parents in Britain on all statutory documents, including the birth certificate. However, when the Irish mother, who is the non-biological mother, wished to apply for an Irish passport for her child, she was told that she was not recognised as a mother under law and, therefore, was not entitled to apply for an Irish passport for her child.

The reply from the Department to a recent parliamentary question that I submitted through Deputy Crowe confirmed the position and stated that, for the purposes of Irish law and with specific reference to the Irish Nationality and Citizenship Act 1956, a parent is understood to mean either the mother or father of the child. It further stated that for the purposes of Irish law the mother of a child is the person who gives birth to the child or a female adopter of the child. What this means in reality is that same-sex parents are excluded. These parents frequently rely on assisted human reproduction methods to conceive. Parents who are legally recognised and hold Irish citizenship cannot extend their citizenship rights in the same manner as everyone else.This is clear discrimination and a very real denial of rights and would certainly not withstand legal challenge.

It bears some resemblance to the time when we did not have marriage equality, before we held the referendum on civil marriage equality, and the relationship of couples who had been married elsewhere was relegated to a civil partnership in this State. As the Minister of State knows, the Zappone and Gilligan case was an example of that. The referendum that followed brought with it very hurtful conversations on the validity of same-sex parent-led families, when posters stating "Every child deserves a mother and a father" were put up around the State. The people's vote said that there is no single proposition for a family in Ireland, only diversity.

We urgently need relevant legislation to catch up and it is unacceptable that a passport form in this day and age would ask for a mother and a father and exclude same-sex parents. There is also an unprecedented demand for Irish passports so we have to ensure that our passport laws are robust and that we are not leaving anyone behind. Does the Minister of State agree that the Act needs to be updated and will the Government bring forward such legislation in this term?

Photo of Helen McEnteeHelen McEntee (Meath East, Fine Gael)
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I thank the Senator for raising what is a very important issue. While much of my response is quite technical in outlining the situation as it stands, the Senator has brought it back to what it should be about, namely, families, children and their parents. While he, I and many others would recognise both people in the example he gave as parents, the letter of the law says otherwise. We have to work to bring about change, as we have done in the past and as the Senator outlined.

All passports are issued in accordance with the provisions of the Passports Act 2008, as amended. Pursuant to section 7 of the Act, a passport cannot be issued unless the Minister is satisfied that the person is an Irish citizen and as to the identity of the person. Citizenship is governed by the Irish Nationality and Citizenship Act 1956, as amended, which is under the responsibility of the Minister for Justice and Equality. Legislative measures relating to citizenship do not fall within the remit of the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade. I will therefore confine my remarks to an explanation of the current citizenship legislation under which the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade operates. I will also explain the current legislative situation relating to guardianship of children.

The Department, specifically the passport service, is tasked with processing passport applications in line with the requirements of the Passports Act. The passport service has received several applications from same-sex married couples seeking to obtain Irish passports for their children born abroad and, in giving due consideration to these applications, has rightly raised a number of issues relating to both citizenship and guardianship with the relevant Departments and the Office of the Attorney General.

I would like to set out the current legislation on citizenship. Section 7 of the Irish Nationality and Citizenship Act 1956, as amended, addresses citizenship by descent and provides that a person is an Irish citizen from birth if at the time of his or her birth either parent was an Irish citizen, although an additional requirement of registration is imposed in respect of children born outside the island of Ireland where the Irish citizen parent was also born outside the island of Ireland.

For the purposes of the 1956 Act, a parent is understood to mean either the "mother" or "father" of the child. For the purpose of Irish law, the mother of a child is the person who gives birth to the child or a female adopter of a child. In general, the "father" is the person identified as the genetic father of the child or a male adopter.

The passport service has received passport applications for children born outside the State to same-sex couples where one member of the couple is an Irish citizen and the other is not. Following consideration of the 1956 Act, the passport service understands that, under the current legislation, where the Irish citizen is neither the birth mother nor the genetic father or neither the male nor female adopter of the child, the child does not qualify for Irish citizenship by descent. The passport service sought and received advice on its understanding of the 1956 Act from the Office of the Attorney General.

While the passport service's understanding was confirmed, the Office of the Attorney General was of the view that further confirmation from the Department of Justice and Equality was required.The passport service has sought clarification from the Department of Justice and Equality on this and many other related matters, including the effect on citizenship of Parts 2 and 3 of the Children and Family Relationships Act 2015, once commenced by the Minister for Health.

I would like to outline the current legal status and position on guardianship. There are particular provisions in the Passport Act dealing with applications for children. Under the terms of the Act, the passport service requires the consent of a guardian or guardians before issuing a passport for a child under the age of 18 years, subject to very limited exceptions. Section 14(1) of the Act provides, "The Minister shall, before issuing a passport to a child, be satisfied on reasonable grounds that where a child has two guardians, each guardian of the child, and where a child has two or more guardians, at least two of those, consent to the issuing of a passport for the child". In line with section 2 of the Act, "guardianship" is a term with a defined legal meaning. For the purposes of that section, "a guardian" means a person who, first, is a guardian of the child pursuant to the Guardianship of Infants Act 1964 and, second, is appointed to be a guardian by either the child, deed, or will or order of court in the State and has not been removed from that office. In cases where a child has only one guardian within the meaning of the legislation, the guardian is required to complete a sole guardian affidavit to confirm that there is no other person to confirm that no other person holds guardianship rights in respect of the child applying for a passport. This is necessary in order to verify that the requirements for guardian consent have been satisfied. It is my understanding the Minister for Health has recently met civil society representative groups from the LGBTI community to discuss a range of issues, including the rights of same-sex couples and their children. I will bring this debate to the attention of the Minister, the Minister for Justice and Equality and my colleague, the Tánaiste, Deputy Coveney. This is an issue we need to address and it is an area in which I would like to see further progression.

Photo of Fintan WarfieldFintan Warfield (Sinn Fein)
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I hope the Minister of State will appreciate that she has provided a lot of information and that I will not be able to extract the key points in just one minute.

Photo of Gerry HorkanGerry Horkan (Fianna Fail)
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I might give the Senator some latitude.

Photo of Fintan WarfieldFintan Warfield (Sinn Fein)
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People have a reasonable expectation, after the big national conversation we had on foot of the referendum, that relevant obstacles will be dealt with. This does not affect a huge number of people, but there is an expectation that the obstacles will be removed. Often, when working on LGBT rights, people are surprised because we have had that national conversation to hear that certain issues have not been sorted out or dealt with. However, these issues still arise; this is not the only such circumstance. Legislation only allows mothers to avail of adoptive leave; therefore, two men who adopt do not have shared or equal adoptive leave entitlements. This is but one of many issues which include the Children and Family Relationships Act. I will keep in touch with the Minister of State and her office and appreciate her response.

Photo of Helen McEnteeHelen McEntee (Meath East, Fine Gael)
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There have been recent discussions on this matter which do not just follow on from the Attorney General's request for further clarification from the Department. There have been other legislative developments, led by the Department of Justice and Equality, the Department of Health and the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection which will I hope have a positive impact in this area in dealing with some of the concerns that have been raised. Most importantly, there must be continued engagement with civil society groups on the issues faced by same-sex couples to try to address some of the outstanding issues raised by the Senator. I am happy to engage with my colleagues and, on a personal level, with the Senator to progress them further.