Dáil debates
Tuesday, 2 October 2012
Order of Business
5:05 pm
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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It is proposed to take-----
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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On a point of order, is there an opportunity to discuss the Taoiseach's announcement regarding a ministerial appointment here?
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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-----No. 4, Health and Social Care Professionals (Amendment) Bill - Order for Second Stage and Second Stage.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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It is was an announcement.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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We were not alerted to it. I am just pointing that out.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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Private Members' Business shall be No. 61, motion re addiction services.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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There are no proposals to put to the House. I call Deputy Martin.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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They are not being put to the house?
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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There are no proposals to be put to the House.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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In terms of the order of the House?
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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No. There is no motion before the House.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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Before we start on the Order of Business proper may I take this opportunity on my behalf and on behalf of my party to express our deepest sympathy to the family of the late Teachta Dála P.J. Morley who passed away, and to Mary, his wife, and to Patrick, Enda, Brian and Cathy, we extend our deepest sympathies. P.J. served in this House for 20 years from 1977 to 1997. He was a man of great integrity and commitment and an outstanding parliamentarian in working for his people in Mayo. He had a very close association with the late Monsignor Horan and worked extremely hard on the securing and development of Knock Airport among other achievements in the region. We sympathise with his family on their loss. I hope we will get an opportunity later to pay a more fulsome tribute but I want to pay this tribute to P.J. and to offer our sympathies and condolences to his wife and family.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Taoiseach might like to respond before we move on to the Order of Business.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I assume we will have an opportunity to say a few words about this again. I concur with the sentiments expressed by Deputy Martin and I sympathise with the Morley family on the death of P.J. I served with him both as a councillor and a Deputy for many years. I enjoyed his company and I will have an opportunity to say some words again. He was a person who showed an extraordinary degree of practical common sense in dealing with many issues that were quite contentious over the years. To his wife Mary and family, I offer my sympathy to the family and to the party. He was a good, loyal and convivial servant of the people of my own county for many years.
Gerry Adams (Louth, Sinn Fein)
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Ba mhaith liom cur leis an méid a dúirt an Taoiseach agus an Teachta Martin faoin scéal brónach seo i dtaobh báis P.J. Morley. I wish to extend sympathy to the Morley family. Go ndéana Dia trócaire ar a anam dílis.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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As has been said, we will have another opportunity to give a more detailed response later.
5:15 pm
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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We would have wished to have had the opportunity to oppose the Order of Business and we are disappointed that this opportunity has not been facilitated. I asked the Taoiseach earlier if the Minister for Health would come to the Dáil to speak about the serious issues within his own Department, particularly in the context of the resignation of the former Minister of State, Deputy Shortall, which is, by any standards, an issue of national importance, particularly as she outlined at the weekend the difficulties in following through on the programme for Government, the degree to which any worthy initiatives were blocked by the Minister-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I thank the Deputy. We cannot discuss that now.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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-----and the degree to which we could again have a balanced budget this year if the Minister had followed through on the commitments that he gave to big ticket items.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Perhaps the Deputy will stick to what he can speak about on the Order of Business.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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I have to say to the Ceann Comhairle-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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No, the Deputy does not have to.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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------it is an extraordinary situation that everybody outside the House is discussing the House-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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There are plenty of other ways besides this.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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Every radio station is talking about it and we do not have an opportunity to have a private notice question accepted, which would have allowed for a detailed presentation by the Minister of his position and his perspective in the aftermath of the resignation of a Minister of State in his Department. This significant controversy has been under way for some weeks. On occasion in previous dáileanna, Ministers were inevitably brought in and asked to respond to a private notice question. That was always the standard.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Standing Order relating to private notice questions is quite clear.
Bernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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The Deputy is mixed up.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I am not denying the Deputy any opportunities. The Standing Orders are quite clear about private notice questions and I only stick to the wording in the Standing Orders. Therefore, please get on and deal with what we can deal with.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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This controversy has raged for weeks.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Maybe so, but I am not interested in dealing with controversies.
Paul Kehoe (Wexford, Fine Gael)
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The Deputy is getting a good bit of mileage out of it.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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The bottom line is the story has changed time and time again.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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There are other ways of dealing with it.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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A Minister of State has resigned and it is extraordinary that we do not have an opportunity following a frank interview by her-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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There are plenty of other ways of trying to raise it.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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-----to ask the Minister for Health some basic questions and hope to get some straightforward answers.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I ask the Deputy to co-operate with the Chair.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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As a political party, we are annoyed and extremely angry at this turn of events.
Bernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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The Deputy is showing it.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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-----and at the failure of the Minister to come in and account for it.
Paul Kehoe (Wexford, Fine Gael)
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It is a pity Fianna Fáil did not have these principles when it was in government.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I have asked the Deputy please-----
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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What seems to be happening is that a very partisan approach is being taken. I just counted the opportunities the Opposition gets in the House and they are few.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Will the Deputy please adhere to what I have asked him to adhere to?
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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Very little opportunity is afforded to the Opposition in this Dáil. Despite all the talk and protestations about reform, transparency and openness, it has not been forthcoming since the Government has taken up office.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I will not ask the Deputy a third time to please resume his seat if he has not something in order on the Order of Business.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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I find it extraordinary that we are in this situation today where the Minister for Health will not come in and, for a minimum of time, make a presentation on the issues that have unfolded.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Will the Deputy resume his seat?
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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This could have been avoided if the private notice question-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I call Deputy Adams.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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We have gone through all the procedures and we have been shot down in this regard in an unfair way.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy referred to the Chair as acting in an unfair way and I ask him to withdraw that remark forthwith.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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No, I did not. I am not withdrawing any remark.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy implied in his statement that he was treated unfairly by me because I did not grant a private notice question. I ask him to withdraw that remark.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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I am not withdrawing any remark. I asked earlier-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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It is a matter for the Chair to interpret the Standing Orders adopted by this House. The Standing Orders are quite clear about the granting of a private notice question. The Deputy's request did not conform with those requirements and, therefore, it is not a matter of being fair or unfair.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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On a point of order, I asked-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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And I take grave exception to the manner in which the------
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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The Ceann Comhairle is making comments-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Will the Deputy please resume his seat?
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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I asked the Taoiseach on the Order of the House today at Leaders' Questions to facilitate and provide for the Minister for Health----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy may be looking at the press but I am telling him what the Standing Orders say.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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I know well what the Standing Orders are.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Has Deputy Adams got a question?
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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I am putting it clearly to the Chair in my opinion and I outlined what our party believes.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy is quite entitled to table a motion.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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The Fianna Fáil Party believes that the way the House is being managed and the facility being afforded to the Opposition is not fair or satisfactory.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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If the Deputy does not have confidence in my chairmanship, he has a means of dealing with it. All he has to do is table the motion.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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What is unfolding here is a ridiculous scenario.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy is quite entitled to table a motion.
Gerry Adams (Louth, Sinn Fein)
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Ceist faoi reachtaíocht atá fógraithe. I wish the Minister of State, Teachta Alex White, well in his new position.
Paul Kehoe (Wexford, Fine Gael)
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Fair play to the Deputy. He has manners that others do not.
Gerry Adams (Louth, Sinn Fein)
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I wish him luck. He will need all the luck he can get, given the way Deputy Shortall was dealt with. The new Minister of State has a hard job to do and I wish him luck with it.
Last week, Deputy MacDonald asked the Taoiseach whether statutory power for primary care had been delegated to the former Minister of State, Deputy Shortall, and he replied that he thought that it had not been.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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This is not in order on the Order of Business. I am sorry.
Gerry Adams (Louth, Sinn Fein)
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I think it is but I will be bound by the Chair's instruction. Will the Taoiseach confirm whether statutory power for primary care has been delegated to the new Minister of State, Deputy White, or whether the Government plans to bring forward such a statutory instrument? Has the programme for Government been changed, given Deputy Shortall's assertion that it is not being implemented? Does the Government intend to bring forward amendments to it?
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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That is not a matter for the Order of Business.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I have no time for the false anger of Deputy Martin. In spite of the charge he made, the first Priority Question taken by the Minister for Health last Thursday-----
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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Late at night and he misled the House.
Bernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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Why was Deputy Martin not present?
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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-----was asked by Deputy Kelleher and dealt with the issue of primary care centres. The Minister gave his answer.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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He misled the House.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I further remind the Deputy that the first Private Members' business following the recess was a motion of no confidence in the Minister for Health and he did not even bother to contribute to that debate.
Billy Kelleher (Cork North Central, Fianna Fail)
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Some of the Taoiseach's Labour Party colleagues did and they are not too happy now.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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With regard to Deputy Adams's question, primary care is not based on a particular statute and cannot be delegated in the normal way-----
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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Of course it can. If the Government wants to, it can but it chooses not to.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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------because it crosses many areas in the Department of Health and other Departments.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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It might interfere with the Minister's portfolio.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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Correct.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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From that perspective, we do not have a defined area of primary care because it is not based on a particular statute.
Niall Collins (Limerick, Fianna Fail)
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Cyber-bullying is a phenomenon of growing concern to many people and communities. It is not just an issue for young people, as there are many well documented cases of adults and elderly people who were victims of this crime. Is the Taoiseach aware of the extent of this phenomenon? Has he any legislative proposals to deal with this crime?
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Is there promised legislation?
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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Yes, the criminal justice (cybercrime) Bill is listed but there is no date for publication. The Minister for Education and Skills is concerned about this. There is a conference on 19 October dealing with this issue. The Minister will reflect on the contributions made at it and will bring forward his proposals for updated legislation dealing with what is a serious matter.
Derek Keating (Dublin Mid West, Fine Gael)
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The office of the Minister of State at the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport, Deputy Ring, has received approximately 2,7000 applications for sports capital grants. Given decisions in this regard are imminent, will legislation be required and will funding be secured for them?
The Taoiseach might join me in wishing Jim Gavin from Round Towers every success as the newly appointed Dublin manager.
Bernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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In view of the oft expressed concerns about crime and the ongoing spate of crime, I used to raised the question of the bail Bill-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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What the Deputy is raising now is more important, not what he used to raise.
Bernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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I am talking about it now but I am also reminiscing.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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There is no time for reminiscing on the Order of Business.
Bernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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I am reminding the Ceann Comhairle that when I was on the Opposition benches and Deputies Micheál Martin and Mattie McGrath were in government, I raised questions about the bail Bill and the need to introduce it at an early date to combat the problem-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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What legislation is the Deputy inquiring about?
Bernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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The bail Bill. To show serious intent, since the previous Administration did not show any intent in that area, would it be possible to bring that important legislation to the House ahead of schedule?
Let me reflect Deputy Durkan's concern. The heads of the Bill are being drafted in the Department of Justice and Equality and it is the intention of the Minister for Justice and Equality to bring the heads of the Bill to the Government as soon as he has completed the work.
5:25 pm
Pearse Doherty (Donegal South West, Sinn Fein)
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One year ago last week, the Taoiseach announced the establishment of the strategic investment fund and he is well aware that we need an amendment to the existing legislation, the National Pensions Reserve Fund Act 2000, to allow the National Pensions Reserve Fund to invest in the strategic investment fund that is supposed to help venture capital and long-term capital for small and medium-sized enterprises, SMEs. Given that it is a cornerstone of the job creation strategy one year on, amendments have not been coming forward and it is not on the list for the rest of the year. When are we likely to see legislation brought forward in order that the strategic investment fund announced by the Government on 28 September last year can finally be established?
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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A great deal of work has been done on this. It is to give effect to that commitment for investment in Irish infrastructure for Irish jobs. I cannot give an accurate date for publication but it is receiving priority. The use of the NewERA concept and the National Pensions Reserve Fund for investment in Irish infrastructure has been the subject of a great deal of discussion.
Willie O'Dea (Limerick City, Fianna Fail)
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That is a blast from the past.
Pearse Doherty (Donegal South West, Sinn Fein)
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We are now one year on.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I cannot give an accurate date for its introduction but it is moving along. It is not too far away.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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Regarding the noise nuisance Bill-----
Patrick O'Donovan (Limerick, Fine Gael)
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Deputy McGrath is qualified.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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No, seriously. This is in section C of the Government legislation programme. Can the Minister extend or improve the powers available to the enforcement authorities to prevent noise or to reduce and abate noise? Last night, at the homecoming of the victorious Kilkenny team, which I congratulate, the noise of the booing broke all decimal levels when the Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government, Deputy Phil Hogan-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Will Deputy McGrath please resume his seat? This is a House of Parliament. I call Deputy Healy-Rae.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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They were so jubilant but they booed the Minister, Deputy Hogan.
Patrick O'Donovan (Limerick, Fine Gael)
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Deputy McGrath is proscribed.
Paul Kehoe (Wexford, Fine Gael)
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Was Deputy McGrath at the gate collecting fivers?
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I called Deputy Healy-Rae. It is bad enough the way things are going without making a total show of ourselves in here.
Michael Healy-Rae (Kerry South, Independent)
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I congratulate the new Minister of State and I wish him well. Regarding the new land and conveyancing law reform (amendment) Bill, can we ensure that when the Bill is brought before the House, the new practice of-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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When it comes before the House, Deputy Healy-Rae can have a long debate on it. When is the legislation due?
Michael Healy-Rae (Kerry South, Independent)
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Can I just say to the Taoiseach-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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No, Deputy Healy-Rae cannot say it, not on the Order of Business.
Michael Healy-Rae (Kerry South, Independent)
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Everyone else gets to say-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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No, they do not.
Michael Healy-Rae (Kerry South, Independent)
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Very briefly, the Taoiseach knows that in recent days there has been a practice of the value of properties being put online showing what people paid for properties.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I ask Deputy Healy-Rae to resume his seat and not to make a farce out of the House. He should table a parliamentary question. What item of legislation does this concern?
Michael Healy-Rae (Kerry South, Independent)
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It is the land and conveyancing law reform (amendment) Bill.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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It will be next year before it is published. Deputy Healy-Rae will have the opportunity to make comments at that point. I hope the man beside him does not suffer from tinnitus from all the noise.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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The noise is coming from there.
Bernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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Deputy McGrath can get treatment for that.
Ray Butler (Meath West, Fine Gael)
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I will bring some normality back to the House.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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Deputy Durkan needs some of that treatment.
Ray Butler (Meath West, Fine Gael)
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I thank Deputy McGrath. When is publication expected of the gambling control Bill? I refer especially to the gambling done on websites. Facebook put up a website in England and we could have the same site in Ireland. Many young people are on Facebook and we need control of websites and gambling.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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This refers to the gambling control Bill. The Government approved the preparation of the heads of the Bill but it has not yet come to Government. It will be next year before it is published.
Joe Higgins (Dublin West, Socialist Party)
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I refer to the minerals development Bill and, in view of alarming reports today of sharp increases in health insurance, the health insurance (risk equalisation) Bill. I had hoped to advise Minister of State, Deputy Alex White, before he left the Chamber-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I am sure Deputy Higgins could meet him in the corridors.
Billy Kelleher (Cork North Central, Fianna Fail)
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That is a dangerous place.
Joe Higgins (Dublin West, Socialist Party)
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In his new dispensation, he might be able to use his youthful political training in how to deal successfully with an entrenched Stalinist regime.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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He was there before.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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This involves two items of legislation.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The minerals development Bill and health insurance risk (equalisation) Bill will be published this session.
Billy Kelleher (Cork North Central, Fianna Fail)
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In wishing the Minister of State, Deputy White, the best of luck, I want to inquire if the instruments assigning power to the Minister of State have been signed. Will the instruments be laid before the Houses of the Oireachtas?
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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That question was already asked.
Billy Kelleher (Cork North Central, Fianna Fail)
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Will it include primary care and will the delegated functions be in the tenure of Minister of State?
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The question was answered already.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I call Deputy Buttimer.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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There was no answer.
Billy Kelleher (Cork North Central, Fianna Fail)
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There was no answer the previous time when Deputy Adams raised it.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The answer is that I have already made an announcement in the House for the information of Deputies, including Deputy Kelleher, that Deputy Alex White has been nominated and approved by the Government as a Minister of State at the Department of Health with responsibility for primary care.
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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With no powers.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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Primary care is not contained in a particular statute because it crosses many areas of the Department so powers are not assigned in the normal way because the statutory remit is not that narrow.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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That is why reform did not happen. What was the Tánaiste doing?
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I call Deputy Buttimer.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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False anger, Deputy Martin.
Emmet Stagg (Kildare North, Labour)
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There were many Ministers of State in the previous Government.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I ask Deputy Buttimer to proceed.
Jerry Buttimer (Cork South Central, Fine Gael)
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The heckling is getting to me.
Niall Collins (Limerick, Fianna Fail)
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Deputy Buttimer is getting too much for the rest of us.
Jerry Buttimer (Cork South Central, Fine Gael)
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In the city of Cork, many people cannot obtain insurance due to flooding or subsidence-----
Niall Collins (Limerick, Fianna Fail)
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It is the fault of Fine Gael.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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It sounds like a Topical Issue matter to me.
Jerry Buttimer (Cork South Central, Fine Gael)
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Has the Government a plan? I wrote to the Joint Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform on this issue.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Is this about promised legislation?
Timmy Dooley (Clare, Fianna Fail)
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It is a pitch for a chairmanship.
Jerry Buttimer (Cork South Central, Fine Gael)
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I am being heckled but it is a serious matter. There are people in the city of Cork who do not have house insurance or whose house insurance has increased by 150%-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy should raise it some other way, not on the Order of Business.
Jerry Buttimer (Cork South Central, Fine Gael)
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Can the Government, through European or other means, introduce legislation regarding that point?
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The point raised by Deputy Buttimer is a serious one for those so concerned.
Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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What legislation is that?
Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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Besides noise.
Willie O'Dea (Limerick City, Fianna Fail)
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Very partisan.
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government and the Minister for Finance are attempting to work out a solution in respect of which money has been made available.