Dáil debates

Thursday, 25 February 2010

Other Questions

Water and Sewerage Schemes.

4:00 pm

Photo of Tommy BroughanTommy Broughan (Dublin North East, Labour)
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Question 6: To ask the Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government the number and nature of each separate project carried out to develop public water supplies for 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [9517/10]

Photo of Joan BurtonJoan Burton (Dublin West, Labour)
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Question 42: To ask the Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government the amount of money allocated and spent for each local authority to develop and or maintain its public water supplies in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009 in tabular form with each separate project identified; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [9516/10]

Photo of John GormleyJohn Gormley (Dublin South East, Green Party)
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I propose to take Questions Nos. 6 and 42 together.

Capital expenditure by the Exchequer between 2005 and 2009 on the provision of water supply infrastructure amounted to €1.5 billion. Some 73 such projects were completed under the water services investment programme. The first table that follows this reply sets out details of the public water supply projects completed under the water services investment programme for the period 2005-09. Information on water supply projects completed under the largely devolved rural water programme and costs associated with the maintenance of public water supplies may be obtained from individual water services authorities. The second table sets out capital expenditure by the Exchequer in each local authority area on the provision of water and wastewater infrastructure over the period 2005-09. Approximately 47% of the expenditure over the period relates to the provision of water supply infrastructure. In addition to expenditure on the completed projects shown in the first table, money was spent on additional projects advanced through the planning and construction phases for completion in subsequent years, ongoing water conservation programmes and the rural water programme. Deputies Lynch and Tuffy will agree that the extensive information in the tables is more like that found in a written reply than that provided on Question Time.

Table 1

YearProjectType of work
2005Bohernabreena Spillways, Dublin CityReservoir
2005Pelletstown W&S Scheme SLI, Dublin CitySLI
2005South Kildare Water Supply Scheme RTVI, KildareSupply Networks, Reservoir
2005Achill 4C, MayoSupply Networks, Reservoir
2005Knock Road SLI, MayoSLI
2005Navan AC Mains Replacement, MeathSupply Networks
2005Surface Water Sewer at Collins Lane Tullamore, OffalySLI
2005Lucan High Level WSS, South DublinSupply Networks, Reservoir
2005Lough Owel TP, WestmeathTreatment Plant Works
2005Mullingar RWSS Sth Western High Level Area, WestmeathTreatment Plant Works
2006Tullow Rising Main Replacement, CarlowSupply Networks
2006Mallow/Fermoy/Blarney STW Upgrading SLI, Cork CountySLI
2006Swords Trunk Main Augmentation (SLI), FingalSLI
2006Firies/ Scartaglen Regional Water Supply Southern Section Part B, KerrySupply Networks, Reservoir
2006Listowel Regional Water Supply Scheme Stage 4. , KerrySupply Networks, Reservoir
2006Tullamore Water Supply Scheme Cts 1& 3 Sillogue Well, OffalySupply Networks
2006Lough Owel Treatment Plant Extension, WestmeathTreatment Plant Works
2007Cobh/ Midleton/ Carrigtwohill Water Supply Scheme, Cork CountyTreatment Plant Works , Supply Networks and Reservoir
2007Dublin North Fringe Water Supply Scheme (Sillogue Storage), Dublin CityReservoir
2007Dublin Reservoirs Covering Construction - Vartry, Dublin CityReservoir
2007Carna/Kilkieran Water Supply Scheme, Galway CountyTreatment Plant Works, Supply Networks
2007Kilcolgan Water Supply Scheme, Galway CountySLI
2007Loughrea - Ext to Craughwell Phase 1, Galway CountyTreatment Plant Works, Supply Networks
2007Tuam Regional Water Supply Scheme (Ext. to Clarinbridge) (H), Galway CountySupply Networks
2007Tuam Regional Water Supply Scheme (Ext. to Headford) (H), Galway CountyTreatment Plant Works, Supply Networks
2007Caherciveen Water Supply Scheme, KerrySupply Networks, Reservoir
2007North Ardfert Water Supply Source protection, KerrySupply Networks
2007Kildare Water Supply Scheme Phase 1 -Trunk Watermains (Contract 3B - Ardscull to Athy), KildareSupply Networks
2007Ballina Water Supply Scheme (Ext. to Crossmolina) (H), MayoSupply Networks
2007Navan AC Watermains Network Phases 2 & 3, MeathSupply Networks
2007Trim Water Improvement Scheme, MeathSLI
2007Athlone Water Treatment Plant (G), WestmeathTreatment Plant Works
2008Carlow North Regional Water Supply Scheme - Advance Contract, CarlowTreatment Plant Works
2008Newmarket on Fergus Water Supply Scheme (excl. Advance Works), ClareSupply Networks, Reservoir
2008Tulla Water Supply & Sewerage Scheme, ClareSLI
2008West Clare Regional Water Supply Scheme (Contract 6), ClareSupply Networks
2008Inniscarra water Treatment Plant Extension Phase 1(Lamaellae Plates), Cork CountyTreatment Plant Works
2008Watergrasshill Water Supply Scheme (incl. Sewerage), Cork CountySLI
2008Letterkenny Water Supply, DonegalTreatment Plant Works , Supply Networks and Reservoir
2008Dublin Reservoirs Covering Construction (Stillorgan Advance Works), Dublin CityReservoir
2008Saggart Water Supply Scheme (Chlorination), Dublin CityTreatment Plant Works
2008Leixlip Ballycoolen Reservoir & Water Tower, FingalReservoir
2008Leixlip Ballycoolen Rising Mains, FingalReservoir
2008Craughwell Water Supply Scheme, Galway CountySupply Networks
2008Gort Water/Sewerage, Galway CountySLI
2008Roundstone Water Supply Scheme, Galway CountySupply Networks
2008Kerry Central Regional Water Supply Scheme (Treatment) - Advance Contract, KerryTretament Plant Works Upgrade
2008Portlaoise/Mountmellick Water Supply Scheme - Advance Contract, (Eyne Borehole), LaoisTreatment Plant Works
2008Castleconnell Water Supply Scheme (Upgrade), , Limerick CountySLI
2008Limerick County Water Network (Patrickswell/Adare), Limerick CountySupply Networks
2008Longford Central Regional Water Supply Scheme Phase 1 AWC & SR - Advance Contract, LongfordSupply Networks
2008Waterford South City Water Supply Scheme, Waterford CitySupply Networks
2008East Waterford Water Supply Scheme Stage 2 Phase 2, Waterford CountyTreatment Plant Works
2009Ballyjamesduff RWSS extn to Ballinagh - Advance Contract, CavanSupply Networks, Reservoir
2009Cavan & Cootehill RWSS - Advance Contract, CavanTreatment Plant Works, Supply Networks
2009Kingscourt Water & Sewerage Scheme - Advance Contract, CavanTreatment Plant Works, Supply Networks
2009Cork City Water Supply Scheme (Tivoli), Civil Contract, Cork CitySupply Networks
2009Blarney Water Supply Scheme Phase 1 (Ext to Station rd), Cork County SLI - Advance Contract, Cork CountySLI
2009Kenmare Water Supply Scheme, Network contract KerrySupply Networks
2009Waterville Water Supply & Sewerage Scheme, KerryReservoir
2009Bennettsbridge Reg WSS - Advance Contract (raising of Well Heads), KilkennyTretament Plant Works Upgrade
2009South Leitrim Regional Water Supply Scheme Stage 5 Augmentation, Pumping Station Contract, LeitrimSupply Networks
2009Limerick Water Network (Southern Ring Main - City & County), Rosbrien to Dock Road & Dock Road to Ennis Road Trunk Mains, Limerick CitySupply Networks
2009Shannon Estuary Water Supply Treatment Plant - Advance Contract, Limerick CountyTemporary Treatment Plant Works
2009Ballymahon Regional Water Supply Scheme ( Improvement) SR - Advance Contract no 2, Civil Works -Ardboghill to Edgeworthstown, LongfordSupply Networks
2009East Meath, Drogheda & South Louth Water Supply Scheme - Advance Contract, Kiltrough Advance Works Stage 1 - Contract 2 Civil Works, MeathTreatment Plant Works, Supply Networks
2009East Meath, Drogheda & South Louth Water Supply Scheme - Advance Contract, Kiltrough Advance Works Stage 1 - Contract 2 M&E Works, MeathTreatment Plant Works, Supply Networks
2009Rockcorry SLI, MonaghanSLI
2009Edenderry Rhode Water Supply Scheme - Advance Contract, OffalySupply Networks
2009Mullaghmore Water Supply Scheme - Stage 2, SligoSupply Networks, Reservoir
2009Gorey RWSS - Wellfield, Creagh WTW Upgrade, WexfordTreatment Plant Works
2009Enniskerry Water Supply Scheme, WicklowSupply Networks, Reservoir
2009West Wicklow Water Supply Scheme Stage 1 (Blessington), WicklowReservoir

Table 2

2005Water ServicesWSIP + RWP*€0002006Water ServicesWSIP + RWP€0002007Water ServicesWSIP + RWP€0002008Water ServicesWSIP + RWP€0002009Water Services WSIP +RWP€000
County Councils
Carlow7,6687,14910,2217,3174,886
Cavan21,15916,70316,51913,6528,807
Clare15,24714,7766,53921,2316,561
Cork11,87313,25720,50536,92027,642
Donegal15,27422,21536,47516,89120,019
Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown3,6083,9983,06211,46320,736
Fingal25,90024,54526,41610,00615,703
Galway22,87043,80733,92829,71619,955
Kerry4,63910,5246,67112,66111,070
Kildare31,61025,64414,2434,07216,530
Kilkenny2,4262,3771,7343,7053,789
Laois4,70110,03825,09314,38511,450
Leitrim6,1215,58411,58910,05415,893
Limerick8,68211,9289,4918,7679,531
Longford1,7543,1751,1175,1348,551
Louth4,1676,3673,7533,1744,396
Mayo30,93547,75534,84621,57129,773
Meath25,50121,96219,43343,72844,323
Monaghan5,5994,7123,1499,23013,427
North Tipperary4,4229,54011,2268,0576,828
Offaly9,2595,2585,2293,3256,034
Roscommon5,4326,23712,41218,89018,339
Sligo11,8279,66118,2797,4628,900
South Dublin2,3041,5951388,49110,968
South Tipperary4,4746,0162,8053,3806,493
Waterford22,55411,61212,2384,6767,039
Westmeath3,6583,7714,97412,65131,892
Wexford3,43110,4897,87915,9829,617
Wicklow8,1587,91712,35419,57822,658
County Council Totals325,253368,613372,318386,168421,810
City Councils
Cork7,66715,1831,9671,158720
Dublin42,51628,40754,31973,83460,063
Galway3,4296,3579106574,885
Limerick30,08730,20636,25522,39810,486
Waterford3,39310,58519,8589,96610,764
City Council Totals87,09390,739113,308108,01486,918
Borough Councils
Clonmel1,1915200280
Drogheda02,77405690
Kilkenny00000
Sligo204107000
Wexford581,058000
Borough Council Totals1,4533,9910569280
Town Councils
Arklow4290000
Athlone002,91800
Dundalk03246,00001,190
Ennis2791114151500
Fermoy17028300
Listowel001100
Longford90000
Monaghan410001,099
Nenagh000560
Skibbereen30000
Templemore1,68500150
Tralee903800
Youghal42001400
Town Council Totals2,5144359,6653612,289
Grand Totals416,314463,778495,291495,111511,017

Photo of Joanna TuffyJoanna Tuffy (Dublin Mid West, Labour)
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I will need to examine the specific details in the tables. The Minister said a total of €1.5 billion was spent over the period in question.

Photo of John GormleyJohn Gormley (Dublin South East, Green Party)
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I thought I said €1.1 billion. That is how much we spent on 73 projects between 2005 and 2009.

Photo of Joanna TuffyJoanna Tuffy (Dublin Mid West, Labour)
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How much does the Minister anticipate will be spent over the next three years? Will it be a similar amount?

Photo of John GormleyJohn Gormley (Dublin South East, Green Party)
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The proposed water services investment programme for the years 2010 to 2012, which will be published over the coming weeks, will set out the new water supply contracts to be progressed over the period of the plan. I have not published it yet. I have already given the Deputy information on the nature of the expenditure that is incurred when investing in water supply infrastructure. I will try to find as much information as I can. As I have not yet published the 2010-12 water services investment programme, Deputy Tuffy will have to wait for further details on it. I cannot reveal in response to a parliamentary question something that has not yet been published. In general terms, I can assure the Deputy that we have not just maintained the budget - we have increased it.

Photo of Joanna TuffyJoanna Tuffy (Dublin Mid West, Labour)
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Under the new programme, will the focus change to repairing existing infrastructure? Are there many new projects that have yet to be completed?

Photo of John GormleyJohn Gormley (Dublin South East, Green Party)
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No. The Deputy is right. I have already said we will ensure we spend considerable additional moneys on conserving water and repairing mains pipes. It makes sense to do so. I am aware of terrible water supply difficulties, particularly in my constituency, that are caused by leaking pipes and exacerbated by the cold weather. We have to deal with that. The new programme will be fully inclusive of water conservation projects. It will show water conservation works that are in progress. New contracts are scheduled to go to construction over the next two or three years. The new programme will allow for the further progression of water conservation schemes through the planning stages. As Deputies are aware, some €130 million has been spent on water conservation measures since 2003. That expenditure has been based on the needs assessments of the water services authorities. There is potential for contracts valued at over €300 million to commence over the next three years. The intention is to facilitate this under the 2010-12 investment programme. Most of the funds will be invested in the rehabilitation or replacement of the equivalent of 650 km of mains.

Photo of Ciarán LynchCiarán Lynch (Cork South Central, Labour)
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Around this time last year, the House debated a circular letter that was issued by the Minister requiring local authorities to keep on account whatever incomes they had derived from development levies on foot of the Maastricht criteria. It was suggested that over €1 billion had been acquired by local authorities across the country during the period of the property bubble. The difficulty is that much of the money that was being held by local authorities, which derived from development levies, was being used to improve water systems, supplies and infrastructure. The Minister has decided to ring-fence, or lock in, such money. Even though they have the money on account, local authorities are no longer able to spend it on doing works of this nature. Is it the case that local authorities which have had this development levy money for two years will be unable to spend it this year as a consequence of the circular letter that was sent by the Minister last year?

Photo of John GormleyJohn Gormley (Dublin South East, Green Party)
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I do not think the issue raised by the Deputy is directly related to the questions before the House. Greater flexibility is being afforded to county managers as a result of our discussions with them on these issues. I do not think they are experiencing the same difficulties in respect of those levies as they did previously. The Deputy should address his questions to the managers in his local area. The discussions were quite successful in ensuring the money was freed up.

Photo of Ciarán LynchCiarán Lynch (Cork South Central, Labour)
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We raised this matter with local authorities when county and city managers appeared before an Oireachtas committee last year.

Photo of Séamus KirkSéamus Kirk (Louth, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy is moving beyond the scope of these questions. I allowed him some latitude with his first intervention.

Photo of Ciarán LynchCiarán Lynch (Cork South Central, Labour)
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I am simply asking about the moneys acquired by local authorities for the improvement of water services.

Photo of Séamus KirkSéamus Kirk (Louth, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy should table a separate question on the matter.

Photo of Ciarán LynchCiarán Lynch (Cork South Central, Labour)
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It is not an issue for local authorities. The Minister sent a directive to local authorities to the effect they should not spend money they intended to use to improve water services.

Photo of Séamus KirkSéamus Kirk (Louth, Ceann Comhairle)
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This issue will have to be the subject of another parliamentary question.

Photo of Ciarán LynchCiarán Lynch (Cork South Central, Labour)
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It was the subject of debate on Question Time around this time last year.

Photo of Terence FlanaganTerence Flanagan (Dublin North East, Fine Gael)
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It is a relevant issue.

Photo of Séamus KirkSéamus Kirk (Louth, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Minister is entitled to have notice of a Deputy's intention to raise a matter on Question Time.

Photo of Ciarán LynchCiarán Lynch (Cork South Central, Labour)
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The Ceann Comhairle was not in the Chair at that time.

Photo of Séamus KirkSéamus Kirk (Louth, Ceann Comhairle)
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I am in the Chair now.

Photo of Phil HoganPhil Hogan (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fine Gael)
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That is very important.

Photo of Ciarán LynchCiarán Lynch (Cork South Central, Labour)
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This issue relates directly to the provision of water services across the country. The Minister avoided answering my question at that time and he is avoiding it again today.

Photo of Séamus KirkSéamus Kirk (Louth, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy is holding up Question Time. He should resume his seat.

Photo of Ciarán LynchCiarán Lynch (Cork South Central, Labour)
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Over €1 billion is held on account by local authorities as a result of a circular letter issued by the Minister.

Photo of Séamus KirkSéamus Kirk (Louth, Ceann Comhairle)
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If he tables another question at some future stage, we will certainly allow it.

Photo of Ciarán LynchCiarán Lynch (Cork South Central, Labour)
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As I understand it, the circular letter is still in place. Can the Minister tell the House whether it is still the case that money gained by local authorities through development levies to improve water services is still ring-fenced? Is it locked so that it cannot be spent?

Photo of Séamus KirkSéamus Kirk (Louth, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy should table a separate parliamentary question on the matter.

Photo of Terence FlanaganTerence Flanagan (Dublin North East, Fine Gael)
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Water shortages still exist in Dublin city and parts of the county. Parts of Howth and Sutton in my constituency are still affected because of what happened during the cold spell. When will this issue be finally resolved?

Photo of John GormleyJohn Gormley (Dublin South East, Green Party)
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The Deputy will appreciate this is a matter primarily for the Dublin local authorities. As a Dublin Deputy I too have an interest in the matter. It is essential information is posted on, say, websites so that people know when shortages and low pressure will occur. Most areas have been sorted. I know from the Sandymount area and others, that were left without water for a considerable time which caused inconvenience to people, that at night time there continue to be difficulties. That is why I have set out in the new water services investment programme my intention to invest in mains rehabilitation and water conservation projects. I will be assisting all local authorities in this, not just the Dublin ones.

Photo of Joanna TuffyJoanna Tuffy (Dublin Mid West, Labour)
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I have noted at home that water pressure is reduced at night. Is this due to the throttling of water supply to conserve water?

Photo of Séamus KirkSéamus Kirk (Louth, Ceann Comhairle)
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That is not really a connected question.

Photo of John GormleyJohn Gormley (Dublin South East, Green Party)
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Although I cannot speak for the local authorities, there was record demand for water during the cold spell. People left taps running and reservoirs, subsequently, ran low. Local authorities had to cut back on water supplies, particularly at night time so as to cause the least amount of inconvenience.

I understand the water pressure problem is worst in areas on high ground. I know in my area that Terenure continues to experience this difficulty. It would be better for the Deputy, or her party's local authority members, to address these questions directly to local authority managers.

Photo of Séamus KirkSéamus Kirk (Louth, Ceann Comhairle)
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Before we move to Question No. 7, I note the reply to it is the same as that given to Question No. 3. Perhaps with the agreement of the House we could proceed directly to supplementary questions.

Photo of Phil HoganPhil Hogan (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fine Gael)
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Agreed.

Photo of John GormleyJohn Gormley (Dublin South East, Green Party)
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Does the Ceann Comhairle want me to read the reply into the record?

Photo of Séamus KirkSéamus Kirk (Louth, Ceann Comhairle)
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We will take it as read. If Members do not want raise supplementary questions we could move to Question No. 8.

Photo of Phil HoganPhil Hogan (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fine Gael)
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I have no problem if we move to Question No. 8.

Photo of Ciarán LynchCiarán Lynch (Cork South Central, Labour)
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With respect, Question No. 3 was a priority question to which only Deputy Hogan could ask a supplementary. Not dealing with Question No. 7 deprives us of asking questions on the same matter.

Photo of Séamus KirkSéamus Kirk (Louth, Ceann Comhairle)
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I am allowing supplementary questions.

Photo of Ciarán LynchCiarán Lynch (Cork South Central, Labour)
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I would appreciate it still if the Minister would read the reply into the record.