Dáil debates

Tuesday, 3 February 2009

Other Questions

Social Welfare Benefits.

2:30 pm

Photo of Olivia MitchellOlivia Mitchell (Dublin South, Fine Gael)
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Question 106: To ask the Minister for Social and Family Affairs the processing time it takes for each individual social welfare office to deal with a claim for jobseeker's benefit; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [3300/09]

Photo of Brian HayesBrian Hayes (Dublin South West, Fine Gael)
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Question 107: To ask the Minister for Social and Family Affairs the measures that have been put in place by her Department to deal with the increased number of people applying for unemployment assistance; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [3282/09]

Photo of Tom SheahanTom Sheahan (Kerry South, Fine Gael)
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Question 108: To ask the Minister for Social and Family Affairs the number of individuals on a national basis and by local social welfare office waiting for their application in respect of jobseeker's allowance to be processed; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [3321/09]

Photo of Pádraic McCormackPádraic McCormack (Galway West, Fine Gael)
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Question 109: To ask the Minister for Social and Family Affairs the average time it takes to process a claim in respect of jobseeker's allowance; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [3292/09]

Photo of Charles FlanaganCharles Flanagan (Laois-Offaly, Fine Gael)
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Question 113: To ask the Minister for Social and Family Affairs if the 115 people, promised in December 2008, have been fully deployed to social welfare offices to deal with the rising number of social welfare applicants; if they have been fully trained; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [3277/09]

Photo of Michael NoonanMichael Noonan (Limerick East, Fine Gael)
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Question 121: To ask the Minister for Social and Family Affairs the processing time it takes for each individual social welfare office to deal with a claim for jobseeker's allowance; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [3305/09]

Photo of Michael D HigginsMichael D Higgins (Galway West, Labour)
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Question 123: To ask the Minister for Social and Family Affairs the basis on which staff allocations to social welfare offices are being made; and the reason there continues to be a wide variation in the processing times for jobseeker payments among different offices. [3229/09]

Photo of Dinny McGinleyDinny McGinley (Donegal South West, Fine Gael)
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Question 128: To ask the Minister for Social and Family Affairs the average time it takes to process a claim for jobseeker's benefit; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [3296/09]

Photo of Jan O'SullivanJan O'Sullivan (Limerick East, Labour)
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Question 134: To ask the Minister for Social and Family Affairs her target date for the full deployment of the extra 115 staff promised for local social welfare offices. [3222/09]

Photo of John O'MahonyJohn O'Mahony (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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Question 135: To ask the Minister for Social and Family Affairs the number of individuals on a national basis and by local social welfare office waiting for their application for jobseeker's benefit to be processed; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [3313/09]

Photo of Arthur MorganArthur Morgan (Louth, Sinn Fein)
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Question 153: To ask the Minister for Social and Family Affairs the steps being taken to reduce the waiting times for people seeking to access the jobseeker's allowance; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [3197/09]

Photo of Joe McHughJoe McHugh (Donegal North East, Fine Gael)
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Question 315: To ask the Minister for Social and Family Affairs when the 115 staff who were committed to welfare exchanges in view of the increased workload will be allocated; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [2980/09]

Photo of Bernard DurkanBernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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Question 336: To ask the Minister for Social and Family Affairs if she has proposals or plans to expedite procedures in order to enable more prompt payment of unemployment benefits or allowances thereby minimising hardship to those who find themselves unemployed or otherwise dependent on a social welfare payment; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [3530/09]

Photo of Mary HanafinMary Hanafin (Dún Laoghaire, Fianna Fail)
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I propose to take Questions Nos. 106 to 109, inclusive, 113, 121, 123, 128, 134, 135, 153, 315 and 336 together.

The average processing times for claims processed in December was two weeks for jobseeker's benefit and five weeks for jobseeker's allowance. That is the average nationally but there are fluctuations between offices. Processing times can vary from office to office for a number of reasons, including the extent of the increased number of claims, the number of staff vacancies, the duration of such vacancies and the turnover of staff in the office, which impacts on the overall level of experience in the office. I am making a table available, Table 1, showing the processing times in weeks at every local office for claims decided in December, the latest month for which such figures are available.

Table 1 — Claim processing time in weeks for claims decided in December 2008
JBJA
Achill0.000.09
Apollo House2.544.46
Ardee1.934.54
Arklow3.626.37
Athlone2.015.60
Athy4.185.16
Balbriggan1.795.32
Ballina1.835.04
Ballinasloe1.193.68
Ballinrobe1.769.31
Ballybofey0.862.37
Ballyconnell1.5910.90
Ballyfermot1.824.87
Ballymun1.213.46
Ballyshannon0.902.14
Baltinglass3.016.02
Bandon3.8310.23
Bantry0.774.04
Bantry Co0.775.64
Belmullet2.082.44
Birr1.266.05
Bishop Square3.415.94
Blanchardstown2.466.80
Boyle3.947.22
Bray1.883.83
Buncrana2.344.93
Cahir1.261.63
Cahirciveen2.254.65
Carlow2.637.01
Carrickmacross1.734.81
Carrick-On-Shannon0.632.57
Carrick-On-Suir1.885.98
Carrigaline1.274.43
Cashel1.413.02
Castlebar1.082.15
Castleblayney2.173.84
Castlepollard2.335.78
Castlerea1.566.05
Cavan2.106.58
Claremorris2.066.64
Clifden0.671.84
Clonakilty3.0810.42
Clondalkin1.973.75
Clones1.773.26
Clonmel1.092.47
Cobh0.841.36
Coolock Lo1.592.70
Cork3.317.40
Dingle1.692.56
Donegal1.091.38
Drogheda1.877.90
Dundalk1.353.43
Dunfanaghy0.671.41
Dungarvan2.263.17
Dungloe0.781.15
Dun Laoghaire1.885.08
Edenderry1.768.48
Ennis1.392.54
Enniscorthy1.565.33
Ennistymon1.754.00
Fermoy2.013.20
Finglas1.202.62
Galway2.566.75
Gorey2.314.16
Gort2.124.68
Kells1.6110.64
Kenmare1.722.34
Kilbarrack1.983.46
Kilkenny1.194.66
Killarney1.802.98
Killorglin1.424.72
Killybegs0.871.73
Kilmallock1.462.76
Kilrush1.152.67
Kinsale3.537.26
Letterkenny1.814.01
Limerick2.385.43
Listowel2.995.60
Longford2.985.49
Loughrea2.077.93
Macroom2.644.22
Mallow Branch Office1.774.61
Manorhamilton0.880.55
Maynooth2.779.06
Midleton3.258.40
Monaghan2.033.59
Muine Bheag3.449.70
Mullingar2.625.24
Navan2.2511.56
Navan Road1.744.90
Nenagh1.032.40
Newbridge3.465.43
Newcastle West1.422.13
Newmarket5.615.42
New Ross1.694.54
Nth Cumberland Street1.562.23
Nutgrove0.921.42
Portarlington1.236.34
Portlaoise2.265.61
Rathdowney2.306.22
Roscommon4.295.20
Roscrea0.911.96
Skibbereen1.134.64
Sligo1.983.94
Swinford1.286.43
Swords Lo1.582.02
Tallaght1.841.70
Thomas Street1.291.68
Thomastown1.996.45
Thurles0.731.61
Tipperary1.352.42
Tralee1.142.02
Trim2.0111.29
Tuam3.3612.73
Tubbercurry1.006.24
Tulla1.162.83
Tullamore Control Office1.656.71
Tullow4.5010.03
Waterford1.793.53
Westport1.612.09
Wexford1.423.58
Wicklow1.747.07
Youghal1.755.42

The conditions of entitlement vary between the two jobseeker schemes and involve, among other things, the need to establish the person's social insurance record and to assess their means where appropriate. I am also making available a table (Table 2) showing the number of claims awaiting a decision as at 24 January 2009.

Table 2 – Jobseeker's Claims awaiting a decision 24 January 2009
JBJA
Achill83
Apollo House184174
Ardee168191
Arklow316257
Athlone452281
Athy263173
Balbriggan231314
Ballina143235
Ballinasloe144148
Ballinrobe84135
Ballybofey69141
Ballyconnell145140
Ballyfermot218244
Ballymun70114
Ballyshannon3148
Baltinglass139101
Bandon195187
Bantry5381
Bantry Co1822
Belmullet3536
Birr191118
Bishop Square876689
Blanchardstown606959
Boyle101125
Bray609364
Buncrana257458
Cahir5848
Cahirciveen4441
Carlow296294
Carrickmacross86133
Carrick-On-Shannon84107
Carrick-On-Suir72108
Carrigaline96163
Cashel4948
Castlebar69116
Castleblayney79123
Castlepollard81193
Castlerea93174
Cavan533650
Claremorris76155
Clifden2947
Clonakilty144135
Clondalkin755639
Clones1551
Clonmel122121
Cobh2937
Coolock LO190291
Cork23021958
Dingle8839
Donegal5637
Drogheda5391037
Dundalk220455
Dunfanaghy3346
Dungarvan117107
Dungloe4855
Dun Laoghaire486672
Edenderry123295
Ennis315373
Enniscorthy239308
Ennistymon113111
Fermoy191135
Finglas357282
Galway9331435
Gorey218287
Gort102153
Kells152257
Kenmare4235
Kilbarrack390266
Kilkenny386491
Killarney273146
Killorglin9975
Killybegs2820
Kilmallock18296
Kilrush7171
Kinsale107128
Letterkenny125305
Limerick15061315
Listowel292120
Longford561477
Loughrea155276
Macroom27884
Mallow Branch Office289165
Manorhamilton3224
Maynooth711513
Midleton370269
Monaghan130157
Muine Bheag147139
Mullingar227389
Navan690737
Navan Road258425
Nenagh11685
Newbridge1148663
Newcastle West302156
Newmarket464149
New Ross174153
Nth Cumberland Street278272
Nutgrove161156
Portarlington116268
Portlaoise391331
Rathdowney9582
Roscommon13276
Roscrea4135
Skibbereen4692
Sligo295314
Swinford76138
Swords LO189176
Tallaght591520
Thomas Street108211
Thomastown5878
Thurles9888
Tipperary7258
Tralee428279
Trim310343
Tuam257352
Tubbercurry2829
Tulla9147
Tullamore Control Office261367
Tullow153178
Waterford574565
Westport8574
Wexford424371
Wicklow148153
Youghal118138
Totals30,41531,174
Grand Total61,589

Staff in social welfare offices have been working extremely hard to process the increasing volume of claims for jobseeker's payments as quickly as possible. Productivity has increased significantly. Nearly 155,000 claims were processed in local offices in the last quarter of 2008, including the one parent family payment. This compares with less than 89,000 in the last quarter of 2007, representing an increase of 74%.

I accept that processing times in some areas are still too long and I would like to assure Deputies that we are doing our best to reduce them. I know that becoming unemployed is a very difficult time in a person's life and that he or she needs to get access to financial and other supports as quickly as possible.

As I outlined in the answer to the first priority question, the Department has taken a number of steps to improve processing times for jobseeker's payments. An additional 31 staff were assigned to 15 local offices following a review of the number of staffing levels in local offices in May and June last year.

Following a further review late last year, it was decided to put an extra 115 staff in place. Some 57 of these have already taken up work, while start dates have been agreed for a further 19 staff over the next two to three weeks. It is expected that all of the posts will be filled by late February. Appropriate training will be given to new staff on their assignment to the local offices.

Four central decisions units are also being set up in Dublin city centre, Sligo, Finglas and Carrick-on-Shannon, each of which will have ten staff.

In addition to this, a further 16 social welfare inspectors are being assigned to various locations throughout the country to do means and other work associated with processing claims for jobseeker's payments. This brings to 202 the number of additional staff being assigned to local offices and claim processing roles.

At the same time, the procedures and processes associated with claims for jobseeker payments are being reviewed and a number of process improvement initiatives are being implemented. For example, the Dundalk initiative involves applicants for jobseeker's payments having their claims taken and decided upon during an appointment with a deciding officer. Some 40% of jobseeker's applications are now being decided upon this way in the Dundalk office. Having been well received by customers, this initiative will be extended to other offices on a phased basis.

The Department's management services unit has responsibility for carrying out staffing assessments for all business areas in the Department, including local offices. The administrative productivity training method of work measurement is used to identify, measure and quantify workloads and to determine staffing requirements for all clerical-administrative work. To determine the number of additional staff required to deal with the increasing live register, exercises based on the template were carried out. These have informed the allocation of existing staff resources to the local offices.

We will continue to keep staffing under review to ensure that people who find themselves in the difficult situation of losing their jobs can have their applications processed as quickly as possible.

Photo of Olwyn EnrightOlwyn Enright (Laois-Offaly, Fine Gael)
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It needs more than a review.

Photo of James ReillyJames Reilly (Dublin North, Fine Gael)
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The Minister's answer does nothing to address the original priority question, which was why one can get looked after in a matter of ten days in Ballymun, but elsewhere in the country it could take 11 weeks. Before Christmas, I asked the Minister why, knowing that a contract was up with the local provider in Balbriggan, no provision was made for people to claim unemployment benefit when that contract ended. People are being sent to Gardiner Street and Coolock for welfare. Using the citizens advice bureaux as a temporary measure is not delivering for the people of Balbriggan. I might remind the Minister that Balbriggan is a town of 25,000 people, which is strategically designated for growth. I just do not understand it.

In Swords, people must queue in the rain outside a portakabin to claim unemployment benefit. The Minister is not providing for those people and she does not seem to have any plans. She is aware of these situations months in advance yet here we are listening to waffle about what might be happening around the country.

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Fianna Fail)
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The Deputy knows about waffle.

Photo of Mary HanafinMary Hanafin (Dún Laoghaire, Fianna Fail)
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Putting more than 200 new staff in place is not waffle.

Photo of James ReillyJames Reilly (Dublin North, Fine Gael)
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They are not in place.

Photo of Mary HanafinMary Hanafin (Dún Laoghaire, Fianna Fail)
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These are important people who are ensuring that claims are dealt with as speedily as possible.

Photo of James ReillyJames Reilly (Dublin North, Fine Gael)
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They are not dealing with claims. Those are aspirations.

Photo of Mary HanafinMary Hanafin (Dún Laoghaire, Fianna Fail)
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We have also identified priority areas, including Balbriggan, for the Office of Public Works which acquires premises on our behalf. That will ensure that premises can be made available.

Photo of James ReillyJames Reilly (Dublin North, Fine Gael)
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There are empty offices all over the place. This is nonsense.

Photo of Mary HanafinMary Hanafin (Dún Laoghaire, Fianna Fail)
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The OPW is actively working on our behalf to ensure not only that we will have staff, but also that we will have facilities to deal with people with the dignity and courtesy they deserve.

Photo of Brendan HowlinBrendan Howlin (Wexford, Labour)
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The House should be silent for Deputy Shortall's question.

Photo of Róisín ShortallRóisín Shortall (Dublin North West, Labour)
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In her reply, the Minister made no reference whatsoever to what is happening in branch offices. That is where the longest waiting times are, whether for unemployment benefit or unemployment assistance. It is all very well talking about having extra staff at local offices but that will do nothing to improve the situation in branch offices. What does the Minister intend to do in order to reduce waiting times to a reasonable period?

Photo of Mary HanafinMary Hanafin (Dún Laoghaire, Fianna Fail)
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The Deputy is correct in saying that of the eight most difficult waiting times in offices, seven are in branch offices. The reason for that, however, is because the decisions are made in the parent office and extra staffing is going into those parent offices.

Photo of Michael CreedMichael Creed (Cork North West, Fine Gael)
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The Taoiseach is getting a pay cut.

Photo of Arthur MorganArthur Morgan (Louth, Sinn Fein)
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Can the Minister explain why she has allowed the processing application time to take over ten weeks in some cases? Given that everybody — perhaps with the exception of the Government — knew that massive unemployment was coming down the line, with significant additional numbers applying for the jobseeker's allowance, how did it get to this state with such lengthy waiting lists?

Photo of Mary HanafinMary Hanafin (Dún Laoghaire, Fianna Fail)
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Whereas I accept there are some offices — just eight in total, I think — where there are quite long waiting times of about ten weeks, in very many other offices the process takes just over a week or maybe two weeks.

It is important we acknowledge that.

Photo of Olwyn EnrightOlwyn Enright (Laois-Offaly, Fine Gael)
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That is no consolation to anyone waiting 12 weeks.

Photo of Mary HanafinMary Hanafin (Dún Laoghaire, Fianna Fail)
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In those areas where there is particular pressure, additional staff have been allocated and are being trained. More staff are also moving across from other Departments. The fact we are not recruiting people from outside the public sector but that the people are moving from other offices to our Department will help to speed up the process. We have also requested the Department of Finance to provide us with access to additional staff so that as claims come in they can be dealt with quickly.

Photo of Olwyn EnrightOlwyn Enright (Laois-Offaly, Fine Gael)
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What is the Minister doing about the knock-on effects for community welfare officers? Due to the fact that many people around the country must wait so long, they are going to community welfare officers. Those officers are in the same position and are unable to deal with their workloads, because people continue to come to them for normal payments along with others who are waiting for supplementary and mortgage payments.

Photo of Mary HanafinMary Hanafin (Dún Laoghaire, Fianna Fail)
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It is important to acknowledge that even in those areas where there are delays in processing the applications, people who are in need of money are not left without it. The community welfare officers pay within a week and continue to pay until the claim is processed.

Photo of Olwyn EnrightOlwyn Enright (Laois-Offaly, Fine Gael)
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That is nonsense.

Photo of Emmet StaggEmmet Stagg (Kildare North, Labour)
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The Minister must be joking.

Photo of Mary HanafinMary Hanafin (Dún Laoghaire, Fianna Fail)
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I appreciate that community welfare officers are under difficulty, but there is a strong message to send, that even though there are delays in processing in a few areas around the country, nobody in need of money is left without it.

Photo of Emmet StaggEmmet Stagg (Kildare North, Labour)
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That is nonsense.

Photo of Olwyn EnrightOlwyn Enright (Laois-Offaly, Fine Gael)
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I have an e-mail here from a community welfare officer that contradicts what the Minister is saying. Community welfare officers throughout the country are inundated with people. Some people are unable to pay their bills and are defaulting on their loans because they are unable to get a payment from the Department. The Minister said earlier her responsibility was only for making payments. She has no feeling for the people who are waiting for payments. If she believes her responsibility is only to make the payments, she should get a job in the Paymaster General's office and step down as Minister.

Deputies:

Hear, hear.

Photo of Mary HanafinMary Hanafin (Dún Laoghaire, Fianna Fail)
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The Deputy has referred to two different questions. With regard to carers, the point I made was that the Department of Social and Family Affairs makes the payment to them, but it is the Department of Health and Children that provides respite care, home help, etc.

Photo of Olwyn EnrightOlwyn Enright (Laois-Offaly, Fine Gael)
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I was talking about jobseeker's allowance.

Photo of Mary HanafinMary Hanafin (Dún Laoghaire, Fianna Fail)
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My Department is responsible for ensuring that the €20 billion of taxpayers' money goes to the most vulnerable in society. That is a budget we aim to protect.