Batt O'Keeffe (Cork North West, Fianna Fail)

I will clarify the last section of the Deputy's contribution because what he said is not what I actually said. On the "Morning Ireland" radio programme I said that certain people in universities were receiving a salary which was on a par with Secretarys General and that they should follow the example set by Secretarys General in terms of pay. That is exactly what I said. There is also a separate issue whereby payments may have been made to certain individuals within the university sector which were not appropriate. The Higher Education Authority is in consultation with those universities regarding this matter. I hope that clarifies the issue.

Deputy Hayes asked about reform in general. I can understand where he is coming from. I have asked the strategy group to look at a whole range of issues. I looked at the structure of third level institutions to see if there might be any bureaucratic factors in play and how we might have a more efficient and effective operation within the sector itself. I am also aware that a value for money audit has almost been completed by the Comptroller and Auditor General.

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