Emer Currie (Dublin West, Fine Gael)
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I speak to the providers about their experiences, but I also look at the figures and I know they say there is a 19% increase in enrolments and a 15% increase in hours. However, we are seeing a reduction in sessional services. There is a reduction in ECCE only. That might be demographics. It is less dramatic with ECCE than with sessional only, but it impacts the families that are not paying for full-time childcare and may not be able to afford it. It is relevant to this.

I will finish on community crèches. We have only had one net gain-----