Mr. Brian Nolan:

Not necessarily when it comes to intake. The world-class system we have is based on industry needs. The downside to that is when there is no work, there is no work. A lot of our members experienced that in the past during the recession. The ultimate pay cut is to lose your job. We know that. Different studies suggest that even in Germany, they have a payment method across the country whereby every apprentice gets paid a similar rate. Because those are related to the particular crafts they work in, the minimum wage would be that. To be fair, if we established the minimum wage as the basic entry level rate, there will be increases throughout the apprenticeships that are still negotiated through collective bargaining. We reckon that system would work here. The only bit that is failing us is the sub-minimum wage aspect.