Mr. Eamon Horgan:

I want to go back the other Paul, Deputy Paul Lawless, and his question on what extra money we seek. We have farmers and participants waiting. Let us say a farmer wanted to do a small bit of a safety upgrade on his or her farm. We would evaluate whether that work needed to be done. So it would be if the upgrade will benefit the participant, like wiring in a corner in order to put a few lambs into the space where the participant would find great peace and joy in feeding those few lambs. Little jobs like that. We do not put up sheds for farmers but just to get a picture of where our future money would go, that is what is holding us back at the moment. We have participants waiting to go on to farms and we want to get those farms ready.

Mr. McCrohan and I and a lot of us are farmers and so we know what a farmer is about when we go into his yard. We know what he is there for. We also know the county like the back of our hand, the same as Deputy Healy-Rae or any other of the politicians. We have a tight-knit community and have a way of knowing who is suitable for social farming. Yes, Mr. McCrohan and I have gone to the farms of three farmers and told the farmers that, sorry, what they were demanding was not about social farming but demanding improvements on their own farms. We told them that we could not approve that and could not spend money on that.