Mr. Neil Richardson:

Exactly. On the security duty point, a lot of reserve outposts or training centres closed in recent years, as Senator Craughwell mentioned. For a reservist to come to a location where they can engage in military duties, it is a significant drive for some, all at their own expense. When they are actually undertaking this security duty, they are not in receipt of the additional allowance that members of the Permanent Defence Force get.