Brian Stanley (Laois-Offaly, Sinn Fein)
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That is okay. It is hoped we will have him back by the end of the meeting. I ask the witnesses to check with him if he comes back in.

The target for retrofits is 50,000 by 2030. Last week I got an answer to a parliamentary question which outlined that in order to meet that target, we need to do 40,000 each year between 2023 and 2025 and 75,000 each year between 2026 and 2030. That is the answer. That is the position, as I understand it. Is that realistic? It is 500,000 households: 40,000 each year for the next two years and then 75,000 each year after that.