Alan Farrell (Dublin Fingal, Fine Gael)
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And incentivisation. We must accept at this stage, and I appreciate this is the policy side of things, that we cannot be saying, "Ah, here you go; it'll be grand." The cheapest option will be gone with, but we need to start conditioning the sector to respond to the requirements set out in the climate action plan, right across every Department. Incentivisation has to be pretty stark in this process. We are incentivising the public to upgrade their properties to reduce their carbon emissions. We need to do the same at the beginning of the process as well.