Mr. David Moloney:

The Civil Service versus public service distinction is around the employer. The Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform really is the employer of civil servants. Public servants are employed by the governing body of whatever organisations they are in, by the board generally. What we try to do through the public service reform and through the public service leadership board is to articulate and consult on the policies being developed for civil servants and encourage public service bodies to adopt like policies.