Mr. Warren Graham:

An open prison is still a prison and prisoners are very aware of that, especially when they are serving a long time. There is a saying in this place that there are people who finish their sentence in open centres and people who serve their sentence in open centres. Either one tends to get along just fine. My perspective on what Ms McCaffrey said is that it is best that I am not here for eight years because the days are much longer.

It is the next step to release and it prepares people somewhat for it. Another step, as Ms McCaffrey highlighted, would be very beneficial to reintegration. I love this place but I do not want to spend eight or ten years here. In the closed prisons the structure and routine help the days and weeks to go that bit quicker. People are constantly engaging in something. Up here on a summer's day you have eight or nine hours to do very little. If you are doing too much of that your days would seem extremely long and monotonous. It suits some people to do three or more years here but certainly not all, particularly those with long-term sentences.