Mr. Martin Fraser:

The reason being that I was aware that Katherine Zappone had worked with the Department of Foreign Affairs. I do not work in the Department of Foreign Affairs. The Deputy understands that. He has seen the FOI. I had no involvement in any of this until the Cabinet meeting. Because Katherine Zappone had worked for the Department of Foreign Affairs in the past, it would not have seemed unusual to me. I really had no engagement with envoys. The question of culture etc., I accept and am happy to explore honestly with the Deputy but I was not involved in this appointment.