Mr. Eamonn Donnelly:

I can cover that question by saying we are all clear about what the issues are. There has been no lack of identification of what the issues are. The HR function in Tusla is probably undernourished. Therefore, it finds itself firefighting much of the time rather than doing some of the things it means to do. Those things become intentions that it will get around to. There has been a degree of restructuring fatigue because a succession of chief executives has decided to set up directorates in certain ways. That puts a huge draw on HR departments. Sometimes it gets them talking about stuff when they would rather be talking about other stuff. I assure the Deputy that the working relationship between the union and the people who are charged with these tasks is good and healthy.