Mr. Graham Doyle:

In terms of the main body of services in the public transport network and in particularly the PSO, the €65 million that goes to CIE in relation to that is the payment that CIE gets for those services. However the demand varies in relation to that. That has been what it has been receiving for the last number of years. The Minister is on record publicly as saying that we are engaging with the Department of Social Protection at the moment in relation to the matter of free travel. We have a concern that the funding in relation to it has been frozen for a period of time and the demand has been increasing. So we are engaging with that Department at the moment in relation to the overall amount provided for free travel, which is primarily provided to the CIE group of companies, but, as the Deputy says, is also provided to some private operators.