John Deasy (Waterford, Fine Gael)
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People within organisations may have a different view on this. This is what happened in some cases where the HSE was not taken seriously on public pay issues. It was felt that an organisation should hire a particular person at a certain level so that it could benefit. In many cases this was done out of a sense of care for the organisation in question. There were good reasons for this and cases can be made in such circumstances. We all accept this, including Mr. Brazel and Ms McGuinness. Cases can be made but this fact is not being entertained in this political environment and this is a mistake in some cases.