Mr. Pat Healy:

There is a sense in the sector that there must be a fair and reasonable public pay position on this and we have spoken to those in the sector on this matter. Many of these voluntary organisations are large and have charitable status, which adds another dimension. This is not only a matter of salaries, it is a question of what is required in terms of governance, quality, service, expectations and management of services. Very capable people are required to run these organisations and it is necessary to set an appropriate scale across social care and the hospital system.