Mr. Donal Keane:

-----which are stand alone, research-driven institutions. That is a model we would have examined. Seismic changes are needed. To use Ms Riordan's analogy, that is the JFK liner we are trying to deal with rather than the HSS. We are aware of those models but within the structure we need the incentives. People in universities have contracts. The principal investigators, PIs, in universities have tenured contracts. They have a level of security which they build upon to win funding from various agencies to do research. If we create one of these institutes, we have to have a clear idea of the funding that is available to pay the people involved, which may be over and above short-term research contracts. It is a challenge but Professor Mark Ferguson has raised it and he will be examining it.