Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 7 October 2015

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions

Central Heating Systems: Regulation of Plumbing Standards

4:00 pm

Mr. Eamonn Smyth:

With regard to stagnation in the particular system that the petition showed, it is connected from the actual house storage. As I described to Deputy Kitt, it should not be connected like that. It should be connected from its own expansion tanks. If one gets any backflow one will go back into a system that only circulates within the heating system and not back into house water that can, potentially, come out of taps. The system should not be connected like that at all, and that is in the event there is backflow.

With regard to the stagnation issue, it is always recommended that any connection is done using a very short length of pipe so there is no amount of water within it that would stagnate. Stagnant water when heated can lead to stomach aches. The petitioner raised the issue of stagnant water occurring in the hotpress where the temperature might rise above 20° Celsius and start to grow Legionella bacteria, and I agree that is always possible. As I said to Deputy Kitt, once such water goes into the system it will be heated to above 60° Celsius thus killing Legionella within seconds. In most cases there is no risk. I agree with the petitioner that such a situation should not happen. It is a short way of feeding the system which should be fed from a separate tank and not from the domestic supply at all. In general, all of the issues that have been raised are down to poor workmanship rather than poor standards or requirements. Poor workmanship has been involved in all of the issues.

Comments

TONY ROCHFORD
Posted on 30 May 2016 12:18 am (Report this comment)

Eamonn who is engineering adviser for Dept of Environment and has been building inspector for over 30 years needs to educate himself a little more. He says that Legionella is killed within seconds once it goes over 60c which is NOT true . WHO and WRAS recommendations Legionella pneumophila requires on average 3.2 minutes exposure to 60oC to reduce the bacteria count by a factor of 10. That is to say 3.2 mins to reduce from 100,000 to 10,000; a further 3.2
mins for 10,000 to 1,000; and 3.2 mins for 1,000 to 100 cfu/l which would be considered an acceptable level. https://www.wras.co.uk/downloads/public_area/publications/ge...

gearoid
Posted on 2 Jun 2016 3:44 pm (Report this comment)

I feel Mr Rochford's point needs to be addressed - Mr Smyth's reliance on a '" most cases' scenario is not very reassuring.

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