Joan Collins (Dublin South Central, Independents 4 Change)
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520. To ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality if she intends to scrap article 19A of the Criminal Evidence Act 1992 (details supplied); and if she will ensure that article 19A does not apply to child victims of sexual abuse. [29443/24]

Joan Collins (Dublin South Central, Independents 4 Change)
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521. To ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality if she intends to remove Article 19A of the Criminal Evidence Act 1992, whereby in certain criminal cases the private counselling/therapy records of the victim of sexual abuse can be made available to the accused (details supplied). [29449/24]

Helen McEntee (Meath East, Fine Gael)
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I propose to take Questions Nos. 520 and 521 together.

Protecting and supporting victims of sexual violence is an absolute priority for me and my Department and I am keenly aware of the devastating physical and emotional consequences such crimes can have on victims.

I am advised that the issue of the disclosure of counselling records is a complex and highly sensitive balancing of individuals' rights. On the one hand, there is the victim’s right to personal privacy and on the other, the accused person’s right to a fair trial. The accused’s right to a fair trial entails a right to disclosure of any material that may strengthen the defendant's case or weaken that of the prosecution. It has been the case that counselling records might contain such material. The accused’s right to a fair trial also places the onus on the prosecution to disclose all relevant information. If the accused’s right to a fair trial is breached, then the prosecution may be compromised or the conviction quashed.

To strike a balance between these conflicting rights, section 19A of the Criminal Evidence Act 1992 was enacted to put some structure and process around these rights. Section 19A permits an accused person to make an application to the court for the disclosure of counselling records, but crucially it also allows the victim to object to the disclosure of their counselling records. If a victim objects to the disclosure, the judge will examine the counselling records and decide if there is relevant information to be disclosed to the defence. The victim is legally represented at this disclosure hearing and under the law is entitled to have a solicitor or barrister engaged by the Legal Aid Board to act on their behalf.

Even where a court orders disclosure, it may also impose any condition it considers necessary in the interests of justice and to protect the privacy of any person. These include a condition that part of the record be redacted, that the record not be disclosed to any other person without leave of the court, that no copies be made of it, that the record be viewed only at the offices of the court, that the record be returned to the holder, and that it be used solely for the purpose of the criminal proceedings.

Similarly, if a victim does not object to the disclosure of their counselling records, the disclosure is still made under strict conditions. The prosecution requires undertakings from the defence as to how the records will be held and used. For example, the records may not be copied or distributed to anybody else, they may be consulted only in certain settings, and they must all be returned to the Office of Director of Public Prosecutions.

The O’Malley Review of Protections for Vulnerable Witnesses, completed in 2020, examined the law but did not recommend any changes to section 19A . It recommended that the existence of section 19A be brought to the attention of victims and any persons advising them so that victims are aware of their right to object to the disclosure of counselling records. Relevant statutory agencies are complying fully with this recommendation.

I can advise the Deputy that there is an action under the Third National Strategy on Domestic, Sexual and Gender Based Violence for the Department of Health to examine and review the rationale for the disclosure of counselling notes as part of court proceedings, including a victim/survivor perspective.

Scoping work for this action has commenced, including preliminary discussions with key stakeholders such as the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions. An interdepartmental working group has also been established, led by the Department of Health, and the inaugural meeting took place on 27 June. The work of this interdepartmental group is expected to be finalised later this year. To further support this work, an additional group of key stakeholders will be established, running in parallel throughout the process, and made up of representatives from the sexual violence NGO sector and other organisations.

I can also advise the Deputy that further work is underway in my Department to support and protect victims of sexual crimes. The Criminal Law (Sexual Offences and Human Trafficking) Bill 2023, which is currently before the Houses, will ensure anonymity for victims in all trials for sexual offences and will extend the victim’s right to separate legal representation if, for example, they are being questioned about their previous sexual history. This will provide for stronger protections for all victims of sexual crime, who are predominantly women and children.