Written answers

Wednesday, 29 September 2021

Department of Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth

Early Childhood Care and Education

Photo of Violet-Anne WynneViolet-Anne Wynne (Clare, Sinn Fein)
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159. To ask the Minister for Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth the additional funding that has been allocated to the early childhood care and education sector in order to meet the commitment in the First Five policy document from 2019 to double public expenditure by 2028. [46978/21]

Photo of Roderic O'GormanRoderic O'Gorman (Dublin West, Green Party)
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State investment in ELC and SAC has increased by an unprecedented 141% since 2015. This funding has been used to remove barriers to access so that children can enrol and meaningfully participate in high-quality ELC and SAC. 

As the Deputy is aware, First 5, the whole-of Government strategy for babies, young children and their families, commits to at least doubling investment in ELC and SAC by 2028. This commitment was made in 2018 when the budget was €484.8 million; the budget is now €637.9 million. My officials are currently engaging in the 2022 estimates process to ensure continued commitment to the implementation of First 5. 

A key vehicle to ensure that such significant additional investment delivers for children, families and the State will be a new funding model. An Expert Group has been leading the work on developing this new funding model since 2019. The Group is independently chaired and includes national and international experts in ELC and SAC systems, funding, quality, economics, and relevant policy experts from the Government Departments who will be involved in implementing the new funding model. They have met nineteen times to date and it is expected that their report will be submitted in November 2021.

The timing of implementation of recommendations will determined in the context of the annual estimates process. The full implementation of the Expert Group's recommendations is likely to be a multi-annual process, with funding becoming available on an incremental basis. The Expert Group’s work is informing the Budget 2022 process.

The Programme for Government commits to implementing First 5, and the new funding model will enable that increased investment to deliver the types of services that align with national policy objectives of quality, affordability, inclusion and sustainability.

Further information on the work of the Expert Group and documentation related to the process is available at www.first5fundingmodel.ie.

Photo of Violet-Anne WynneViolet-Anne Wynne (Clare, Sinn Fein)
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160. To ask the Minister for Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth the engagement his Department has had with member and sector workers in relation to a campaign by a union (details supplied); and the way his Department plans to respond appropriately to the crisis in the early childhood care and education sector. [46979/21]

Photo of Roderic O'GormanRoderic O'Gorman (Dublin West, Green Party)
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I meet with representatives of the early learning and care (ELC) and school age childcare (SAC) sector on a regular basis, and I have had a number of meetings in relation to the Big Start campaign.

On working conditions and staffing, the campaign highlights the low wages of those who work in ELC and SAC services. I firmly believe that their level of pay does not reflect the value of the work they do for children, for families and for the wider society and economy. It also contributes to challenges of recruitment and retention of staff, which are key to the consistency of care provided to children.

As the State is not the employer, the Deputy will appreciate that my Department does not set wage levels nor determine working conditions for staff working in the sector. My Department has, however, over a number of years provided a range of supports to service providers to enable them to improve wages and working conditions. However, wages in the sector remain too low and I will continue to work with the sector to improve this situation.

In December 2020, working in partnership with SIPTU and CSI/IBEC, I began a short process in which interested parties were invited to discuss how best to address issues of pay and conditions in the sector and how a Joint Labour Committee (JLC) might support this. In agreement with IBEC/Childhood Services Ireland, and SIPTU, I appointed Dr Kevin Duffy, former Chair of the Labour Court, to be the independent chair of this process.  

On foot of Dr Duffy’s report, on 11 March I wrote to the Minister of State for Business, Employment and Retail, recommending the establishment of a JLC for the sector. In line with the provisions of the Industrial Relations Acts, the Labour Court recommended establishment of a JLC, and Minister English accepted the Labour Court’s recommendations. The Establishment Order came into effect at the beginning of July. The JLC will provide an opportunity for unions and employer representatives to work together to determine wages and working conditions for ELC and SAC.

The Big Start campaign also highlights issues of affordability and of the level of public investment in the sector. First 5, the whole-of-Government strategy for babies, young children and their families, commits to at least doubling investment in ELC and SAC in the decade to 2028. A key vehicle to ensure that such significant additional investment delivers for children, families and the State will be a new funding model. The new funding model will be the framework for additional investment in services in return for clear evidence of quality and affordability to ensure effective use of public funding.

An Expert Group has been leading the work on developing this new funding model since 2019. The Group is independently chaired and includes national and international experts in ELC and SAC systems, funding, quality, economics, and relevant policy experts from the Government Departments who will be involved in implementing the new funding model. They have met eighteen times to date and it is expected that their report will be submitted in November 2021. It is anticipated that the Expert Group’s work will inform the Budget 2022 process and my officials are already engaged in this.

Photo of Violet-Anne WynneViolet-Anne Wynne (Clare, Sinn Fein)
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161. To ask the Minister for Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth if he will consider an inquiry into the findings of a report (details supplied) highlighting that 60% of workers in the early childhood care and education sector earn less than the living wage; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [46980/21]

Photo of Roderic O'GormanRoderic O'Gorman (Dublin West, Green Party)
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In July I met with some of those involved in writing the report, and I welcome the report's findings and proposals.

On working conditions and staffing, the report highlights the low wages of those who work in early learning and care (ELC) and school-age childcare (SAC) services. I firmly believe that their level of pay does not reflect the value of the work practitioners do for children, for families and for the wider society and economy. It also contributes to challenges of recruitment and retention of staff, which are key to the consistency of care provided to children, as the report notes.

The State cannot determine wages in the sector as it is not the employer. However, I am committed to doing what is in my power to improve wages and working conditions. That is why last December I began a process to examine the possibility of regulating pay and conditions in the sector and the suitability of a Joint Labour Committee (JLC). In agreement with IBEC/Childhood Services Ireland, and SIPTU, I appointed Dr Kevin Duffy, former Chair of the Labour Court, to be the independent chair of this process.

On foot of Dr Duffy’s report, on 11 March I wrote to the Minister of State for Business, Employment and Retail, recommending the establishment of a JLC for the sector.

In line with the provisions of the Industrial Relations Acts, the Labour Court recommended establishment of a JLC, and Minister English has now accepted the Labour Court’s recommendations. The Establishment Order came into effect at the beginning of July. The JLC will provide an opportunity for unions and employer representatives to work together to determine wages and working conditions for ELC and SAC.

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