Written answers

Tuesday, 5 July 2011

Department of Education and Skills

Vocational Education Committees

9:00 pm

Photo of Brendan SmithBrendan Smith (Cavan-Monaghan, Fianna Fail)
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Question 293: To ask the Minister for Education and Skills the number of second level pupils, second level schools, further education students, further education facilities and other significant activities for each of the current vocational education committees and the position following the proposed reorganisation of the committees. [18971/11]

Photo of Ruairi QuinnRuairi Quinn (Dublin South East, Labour)
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I set out below two tables for the information of the Deputy.

Table No. 1. sets out details in relation to numbers of second level pupils, places funded by my Department in Post Leaving Certificate (PLC) courses, Vocational Training Opportunities Scheme (VTOS), Youthreach, Senior Traveller Training Centres and participants in Back to Education Initiative, Adult Literacy and Community Education in each VEC.

Table No. 2 sets out details in relation to numbers of Second level schools and further education centres. Details of the number of facilities where literacy, community education and Back to Education Initiative (BTEI) programmes are operated are not available. While VTOS is offered in PLC centres, in core groups in schools and in stand alone core centres, the tables only show the number of stand alone core centres to avoid double counting.

The Government decision to reconfigure the VEC sector will not impact on schools and other educational centres managed and operated by the VECs and will not affect teaching or other posts outside of head office functions in the merging VECs.

TABLE 1
Places per VEC (2010/11)Participants (2010)
VECNumber of recognised PP schools (including PLC) 2010/112nd Level Enrolments 2010/11Post Leaving CertificateVocational Training Opportunities SchemeYouthreachSenior Traveller Training CentresBack to EducationAdult LiteracyCommunity Education
City of Cork68974,000450120147301,5794,378
City of Dublin223,2107,7181,3505891915186,7376,048
City of Galway36721,16022044403222,5251,869
City of Limerick3624920210125-9962,1151,550
City of Waterford244877020075-214980904
Dun Laoghaire302,15115025-2429091,530
Co. Carlow51,3918207525225071,0771,707
Co. Cavan51,5881,21040105-2741,464387
Co. Clare72,053128160853710462,128733
Co. Cork218,6711,3341002822918622,6434,877
Co. Donegal154,576185180160244362,7475,342
Co. Dublin2610,7889163603677327013,6743,302
Co. Galway112,001180100145709421,573931
Co. Kerry82,2105301751205110782,3143,720
Co. Kildare104,24235727085-9301,703679
Co. Kilkenny82,01648012025-5581,1091,245
Co. Laois38513701005018825714497
Co. Leitrim59599248-15266497605
Co. Limerick94,2863106565265211,0801,032
Co. Longford46123504055186831,201967
Co. Louth52,4251,10011090186931,8841,221
Co. Mayo81,8704041601104610031,4351,198
Co. Meath94,60530670185307461,545432
Co. Monaghan62,1652784070-4981,587810
Co. Offaly51,773508070418531,179636
Co. Roscommon3660639070173416211,989
Co. Sligo68684406040-4831,5291,431
Co. Tipperary NR61,669615906015647297575
Co. Tipperary SR51,71528010035-6749711,930
Co. Waterford399022310045-4601,104607
Co. Westmeath41,4691351005022285907998
Co. Wexford71,955760220125189291,044484
Co. Wicklow114,118980300175215501,8691,339
Total25478,37729,6155,9333,67268424,81354,74155,953
TABLE 2
VECNumber of recognised PP schools (including PLC) 2010/11Vocational Training Opportunities SchemeYouthreachSenior Traveller Training Centres
City of Cork6041
City of Dublin221101
City of Galway3111
City of Limerick3130
City of Waterford2220
Dun Laoghaire3010
Co. Carlow5011
Co. Cavan5030
Co. Clare7271
Co. Cork21351
Co. Donegal15651
Co. Dublin26994
Co. Galway11453
Co. Kerry8552
Co. Kildare10330
Co. Kilkenny8110
Co. Laois3111
Co. Leitrim5101
Co. Limerick9422
Co. Longford4121
Co. Louth5221
Co. Mayo8633
Co. Meath9171
Co. Monaghan6030
Co. Offaly5032
Co. Roscommon3321
Co. Sligo6010
Co. Tipperary NR6021
Co. Tipperary SR5110
Co. Waterford3320
Co. Westmeath4221
Co. Wexford7531
Co. Wicklow11341
Total2547110533

Photo of Brendan SmithBrendan Smith (Cavan-Monaghan, Fianna Fail)
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Question 294: To ask the Minister for Education and Skills if he will detail the specific financial savings he has projected for his planned vocational education committee rationalisation; and the way this differs from previous plans. [18972/11]

Photo of Ruairi QuinnRuairi Quinn (Dublin South East, Labour)
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The new VEC structure fits with the Government's policy of reducing the number of agencies and is consistent with the strategic objectives of the transforming public service agenda through service delivery by a smaller number of agencies, each benefiting from efficiencies of greater scale. This change will better position the sector for future development and will facilitate the required reductions, under the public service Employment Control Framework, of administrative staff employed in VECs, while protecting the services provided by VECs.

The Special Group on Public Service Numbers and Expenditure Programmes considered that the number of VECs could be reduced from 33 to 22 andsuggested that savings of €3million could be realised.

Some of the likely savings from the restructuring of the VECs will come from the sale of existing VEC buildings. The potential revenue to be raised from the sale of these assets, however, is closely linked to the current state of the property market and it may not be possible to dispose of such properties satisfactorily in the short term. Savings in administrative staffing costs are linked to natural wastage, the operating of the moratorium on recruitment and redeployment of surplus staff.

The reconfiguration can, over time, yield savings in the recurrent cost of the headquarter functions of VECs which, at present, is of the order of €40 million in total. The Government's decision to keep the number of new entities at 16 will assist in meeting the savings projected by the Special Group.

It is important to note that this decision impacts on the administrative HQ costs of the VECs. The range of programmes delivered by VECs are not impacted by this decision.

On entering office, I invited the Irish Vocational Education Association (IVEA) to submit alternative rationalisation proposals following their expression of concerns regarding the configuration of the revised entities decided by the previous government. The IVEA subsequently submitted a proposal that involved a reduction to 20 in the number of VECs. While I am satisfied that having regard to cost and critical mass considerations, a reduction to 16 new entities is appropriate, the new configuration takes account of the IVEA submission to the greatest extent possible.

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