Written answers

Thursday, 28 January 2010

Department of Social and Family Affairs

Pension Provisions

5:00 pm

Photo of Tom HayesTom Hayes (Tipperary South, Fine Gael)
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Question 130: To ask the Minister for Social and Family Affairs if a person (details supplied) in County Tipperary is entitled to a contributory pension; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [4348/10]

Photo of Mary HanafinMary Hanafin (Dún Laoghaire, Fianna Fail)
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Spouses who are actively engaged in a commercial partnership, including the operation of a farm, as opposed to simply being the joint owners of a property, are treated as individual self-employed contributors. In these cases, both spouses are liable to pay PRSI (Class S) contributions in a timely manner. On foot of a Programme for Government commitment an information leaflet, 'Working with your spouse: how it affects your social welfare contributions and entitlements', has been developed between the Department of Social & Family Affairs and the Revenue Commissioners to set out the social welfare and tax implications of families co-working in a shared business. It was published on the 25th of June, 2008. The leaflet clarifies that spouses who operate in a commercial partnership may be brought into the social insurance system, subject to certain criteria. In this way, both spouses incur a liability to pay self-employed PRSI and build up entitlement towards a contributory state pension and other social welfare benefits. It is open to any person to apply for recognition of a commercial partnership. The qualifying conditions for State Pension (Contributory) require the applicant to:

- have entered insurable employment before attaining the age of 56 years

- have at least 260 paid contribution weeks since entry into insurance

- satisfy the yearly average condition.

In addition, Section 110 (1) of the Social Welfare (Consolidation) Act 2005 provides that a self-employed contributor shall not be regarded as satisfying the qualifying conditions unless:

(a) the person has paid self-employment contributions in respect of at least one contribution year before attaining pensionable age, and

(b) all self-employment contributions payable by him or her have been paid.

Section 110 (1)(a) of the Social Welfare Consolidation Act, 2005, has been on the statute books for over fifteen years and there has not been a change in policy in relation to the requirement to have paid at least one year's self employment contributions prior to reaching age 66, in order to qualify for a State Pension (Contributory). The person concerned was awarded a State Pension (Contributory) from 24th March 2007. According to the records of the Department, the self-employment contributions were all paid by the person concerned after their 66th birthday. They therefore had no entitlement to a State Pension (Contributory), and should not have been paid under this scheme. The person concerned has been notified of this decision on the 12th January 2010 and has been advised in relation to their right to appeal this decision, or to have it reviewed.

The total amount of overpayments arising in these cases has not yet been determined. An overpayment will be determined in the above case and the person concerned will be notified and requested to repay the amount involved. However a Recovery Officer may reduce or cancel an overpayment based on the circumstances of an individual case, in line with governing legislation.

It should be noted that while the publication of the leaflet 'Working with your spouse: how it affects your social welfare contributions and entitlements' clarified existing procedures in relation to the recognition of commercial partnerships between husbands and wives for social insurance purposes, including retrospective payment of social insurance, it did not involve a change in existing policy or administration. In particular, the clarification of the position did not alter people's potential entitlements and all applicants for the state pension (contributory) must continue to satisfy the eligibility conditions as contained in legislation, and outlined above. The Department understands and apologises for the upset and distress caused to this person and regrets the administrative error involved.

Photo of Tom HayesTom Hayes (Tipperary South, Fine Gael)
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Question 131: To ask the Minister for Social and Family Affairs the contributory pension entitlements in respect of a person (details supplied) in County Tipperary; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [4356/10]

Photo of Mary HanafinMary Hanafin (Dún Laoghaire, Fianna Fail)
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Spouses who are actively engaged in a commercial partnership, including the operation of a farm, as opposed to simply being the joint owners of a property, are treated as individual self-employed contributors and are thus liable to social insurance contributions. In these cases, both spouses are liable to pay PRSI (Class S) contributions in a timely manner.

On foot of a Programme for Government commitment an information leaflet, 'Working with your spouse: how it affects your social welfare contributions and entitlements', has been developed between the Department of Social & Family Affairs and the Revenue Commissioners to set out the social welfare and tax implications of families co-working in a shared business. It was published on the 25th of June, 2008. The leaflet clarifies that spouses who operate in a commercial partnership may be brought into the social insurance system, subject to certain criteria. In this way, both spouses incur a liability to pay self-employed PRSI and build up entitlement towards a contributory state pension and other social welfare benefits. It is open to any person to apply for recognition of a commercial partnership.

The qualifying conditions for State Pension (Contributory) require the applicant to:

- have entered insurable employment before attaining the age of 56 years

- have at least 260 paid contribution weeks since entry into insurance

- satisfy the yearly average condition.

In addition, Section 110 (1) of the Social Welfare (Consolidation) Act 2005 provides that a self-employed contributor shall not be regarded as satisfying the qualifying conditions unless:

(a) the person has paid self-employment contributions in respect of at least one contribution year before attaining pensionable age,

(b) all self-employment contributions payable by him or her have been paid.

Section 110 (1)(a) of the Social Welfare Consolidation Act, 2005, has been on the statute books for over fifteen years and there has not been a change in policy in relation to the requirement to have paid at least one year's self employment contributions prior to reaching age 66, in order to qualify for a State Pension (Contributory). It should be noted that while the publication of the leaflet 'Working with your spouse: how it affects your social welfare contributions and entitlements' clarified existing procedures in relation to the recognition of commercial partnerships between husbands and wives for social insurance purposes, including retrospective payment of social insurance, it did not involve a change in existing policy or administration. In particular, the clarification of the position did not alter people's potential entitlements and all applicants for the state pension (contributory) must continue to satisfy the eligibility conditions as contained in legislation, and outlined above.

An application for the recognition of a commercial partnership between the person concerned and their spouse is currently under examination in my Department. The person concerned will be advised of the outcome of this investigation in due course. Should the person concerned have not paid any self employment contributions prior to reaching age 66, the Department will contact the person and advise them of the position and to consider if they wish the Department to continue its' investigation or to withdraw their application. If a favourable commercial partnership decision is reached the person may incur a PRSI liability for the years in question. In addition, I have arranged for a copy of this person's PRSI contribution record and a 'Work it out' guide, which explains how the State Pension (Contributory) is calculated, to be issued to her home address, to assist her in assessing her pension entitlement.

Photo of Olwyn EnrightOlwyn Enright (Laois-Offaly, Fine Gael)
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Question 132: To ask the Minister for Social and Family Affairs the reason a State pension in respect of a person (details supplied) in County Offaly has been withdrawn; the payment that will now be put in place; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [4373/10]

Photo of Mary HanafinMary Hanafin (Dún Laoghaire, Fianna Fail)
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Spouses who are actively engaged in a commercial partnership, including the operation of a farm, as opposed to simply being the joint owners of a property, are treated as individual self-employed contributors. In these cases, both spouses are liable to pay PRSI (Class S) contributions in a timely manner.

On foot of a Programme for Government commitment an information leaflet, 'Working with your spouse: how it affects your social welfare contributions and entitlements' , has been developed between the Department of Social & Family Affairs and the Revenue Commissioners to set out the social welfare and tax implications of families co-working in a shared business. It was published on the 25th of June, 2008. The leaflet clarifies that spouses who operate in a commercial partnership may be brought into the social insurance system, subject to certain criteria. In this way, both spouses incur a liability to pay self-employed PRSI and build up entitlement towards a contributory state pension and other social welfare benefits. It is open to any person to apply for recognition of a commercial partnership. The qualifying conditions for State Pension (Contributory) require the applicant to:

have entered insurable employment before attaining the age of 56 years

have at least 260 paid contribution weeks since entry into insurance

satisfy the yearly average condition.

In addition, Section 110 (1) of the Social Welfare (Consolidation) Act 2005 provides that a self-employed contributor shall not be regarded as satisfying the qualifying conditions unless: a. the person has paid self-employment contributions in respect of at least one contribution year before attaining pensionable age, and b. all self-employment contributions payable by him or her have been paid.

Section 110 (1)(a) of the Social Welfare Consolidation Act, 2005, has been on the statute books for over fifteen years and there has not been a change in policy in relation to the requirement to have paid at least one year's self employment contributions prior to reaching age 66, in order to qualify for a State Pension (Contributory). The person concerned was awarded a State Pension (Contributory) from 10 October 2007. According to the records of the Department, the self-employment contributions were all paid by the person concerned after their 66 birthday. The people concerned did not therefore satisfy the condition at (a) above and has no entitlement to a State Pension (Contributory) based on her self-employment contributions, and should not have been put into payment under this scheme. The person has been notified of this decision on the 12 January 2010 and has been advised in relation to her right to appeal this decision, or to have it reviewed.

The total amount of overpayments arising in these cases has not yet been determined. An overpayment will be determined in the above case and the person concerned will be notified and requested to repay the amount involved. However a recovery Officer may reduce or cancel an overpayment based on the circumstances of an individual case, in line with governing legislation.

It should be noted that while the publication of the leaflet 'Working with your spouse: how it affects your social welfare contributions and entitlements' clarified existing procedures in relation to the recognition of commercial partnerships between husbands and wives for social insurance purposes, including retrospective payment of social insurance, it did not involve a change in existing policy or administration. In particular, the clarification of the position did not alter people's potential entitlements and all applicants for the state pension (contributory) must continue to satisfy the eligibility conditions as contained in legislation, and outlined above. The Department understands and apologises for the upset and distress caused to this person and regrets the administrative error involved.

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