Jan O'Sullivan (Limerick East, Labour)
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Question 109: To ask the Minister for Social and Family Affairs the position regarding the introduction of an all-Ireland free travel scheme; the latest discussions he has had on this issue; the reason for the delay in its implementation; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [11017/06]

Séamus Brennan (Dublin South, Fianna Fail)
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The programme for Government contains a commitment to a scheme of all-Ireland free travel for pensioners resident in all parts of the island of Ireland. The scheme would enable pensioners resident here to travel free of charge on all bus and rail services in Northern Ireland. Likewise, pensioners in Northern Ireland would travel free of charge on all bus, rail, air and ferry services in this State.

In July 1995, my Department introduced the cross-Border free travel scheme. This scheme extended free travel entitlement so that free travel pass holders resident in Ireland could undertake a cross-Border journey from a point of departure in one jurisdiction to a destination in the other jurisdiction free of charge. My Department covers the full cost of cross-Border journeys made by Department of Social and Family Affairs pass holders. It also covers the cost of the southern element of cross-Border journeys undertaken by Northern Ireland pass holders. Under its own concessionary fares scheme, the Department for Regional Development for Northern Ireland covers the cost of the northern element of cross-Border bus and rail journeys made by Northern Ireland pass holders.

Some 220,000 cross-border journeys are undertaken each year at a total cost of €3.3 million; my Department pays €2.9 million and the remaining €400,000 is covered by the Department for Regional Development for Northern Ireland. The introduction of an all-Ireland free travel scheme would further extend the existing arrangements by allowing pass holders to take onward journeys free of charge. The cost of an all-Ireland free travel scheme would ultimately depend upon the extent to which pass holders avail of it.

My predecessor initiated discussions with the then Minister of State at the Department of Regional Development in Northern Ireland in September 2004. Most recently, the proposed scheme was discussed at the British/Irish Intergovernmental Conference on 27 June 2005 and I met with the Parliamentary Under Secretary of State at the Northern Ireland Office the following week, during which we discussed the introduction of a scheme. I am in direct contact with the Secretary of State on the matter.

Officials from my Department have regular contacts with their counterparts in the Department for Regional Development for Northern Ireland concerning the operation of the existing cross-Border free travel scheme. Discussions about the introduction of the proposed all-Ireland free travel scheme have also taken place. There are a number of operational, financial and legal matters to be addressed. These include the need to develop a smartcard travel pass for our customers which would improve the security of the pass and which would provide accurate information on the number of people using the cards and the number of trips undertaken each year. There is also a need to introduce a new registration and authentication process for my Department's customers.

While significant progress has been made in addressing the issues, legislative and other considerations require that a full scheme cannot be implemented for some time. However, I hope to be in a position shortly to announce agreement on the implementation of an interim scheme to allow free travel recipients in each jurisdiction to travel free from point to point within the other jurisdictions.