Seanad debates

Wednesday, 8 May 2019

Gnó an tSeanaid - Business of Seanad

 

2:30 pm

Photo of Paul CoghlanPaul Coghlan (Fine Gael)
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As the time by which the Wildlife (Amendment) Bill 2016 was ordered to adjourn has now been reached, or just about, the debate on that Bill will not now proceed and we will move directly to the Second Stage of the Free Education (Prohibition of Fees and Charges) Bill 2018.

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Fine Gael)
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That is not scheduled until 6 p.m. There are three minutes available.

Photo of Paul CoghlanPaul Coghlan (Fine Gael)
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Does the Leader wish to bring the Minister to the House now?

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Fine Gael)
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I do not but I want to make an announcement that will have an impact on the next item of business.

Photo of Paul CoghlanPaul Coghlan (Fine Gael)
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That is why I was calling the Leader. Is he satisfied that we cannot now proceed, given the time?

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Fine Gael)
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To be fair, Senator Ó Ríordáin is not in the House.

Photo of Lynn RuaneLynn Ruane (Independent)
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The Minister has been outside as well.

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Fine Gael)
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The Minister of State, Deputy Kyne, has also been waiting in the anteroom to speak on the Wildlife (Amendment) Bill. I want to apologise to him for that.

Photo of Rónán MullenRónán Mullen (Independent)
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He is a busy man.

Photo of Paul CoghlanPaul Coghlan (Fine Gael)
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Does the Leader wish to bring him in?

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Fine Gael)
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I do not want to bring him in for one minute. I want to inform the House that-----

Photo of Paul CoghlanPaul Coghlan (Fine Gael)
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We could be in conflict with the Order of Business for the day.

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Fine Gael)
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The impact of what we did was that we are in conflict with what we should have been doing in any event.

Photo of Paul CoghlanPaul Coghlan (Fine Gael)
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The House made a decision.

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Fine Gael)
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I accept that. I was not going to propose anything -----

(Interruptions).

Photo of Paul CoghlanPaul Coghlan (Fine Gael)
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Order, please.

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Fine Gael)
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I am starting to learn from Senator Mullen that the power of rhetoric is very important.

Photo of Paul CoghlanPaul Coghlan (Fine Gael)
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The Senator should speak through the Chair.

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Fine Gael)
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As I outlined on the Order of Business, the Minister for Education and Skills is in the Dáil answering parliamentary questions and will not be available until at least 7 p.m. I am open to clarification on the time. That has implications for the Seanad's Private Members' business because there is no Minister of Minister of State available to take it.

Photo of Paul CoghlanPaul Coghlan (Fine Gael)
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We could proceed without the Minister.

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Fine Gael)
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I would not like to do that. I propose that we suspend until the Minister is available.

Photo of Paul CoghlanPaul Coghlan (Fine Gael)
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Until what time does the Leader propose to suspend proceedings?

Photo of Gerry HorkanGerry Horkan (Fianna Fail)
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I understand that there will be a Minister available very shortly to take the Private Members' business.

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Fine Gael)
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I received an email on my mobile phone as I was speaking. As I outlined earlier, the Minister for Education and Skills is not available. There is no Minister of State in the Department available now to take the Private Members' business.The Minister of State, Deputy Canney, is available to take the Private Members' business. When I was making my point earlier, he had not indicated his availability but he is available now.

Photo of Paul CoghlanPaul Coghlan (Fine Gael)
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In that case, we can proceed with the Private Members' business. Is that agreed? Agreed.