Seanad debates

Thursday, 20 December 2012

Appropriation Bill 2012 [Certified Money Bill]: All Stages

 

11:55 am

Photo of Paddy BurkePaddy Burke (Fine Gael)
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In accordance with an Order of the House today, I must put the following question: "That the Bill is hereby read a Second Time, that sections 1 to 4, inclusive, Schedules 1 and 2 and the Title are hereby agreed to in Committee, that the Bill is reported, without recommendation, received for final consideration and ordered to be returned to the Dáil."

Photo of Thomas ByrneThomas Byrne (Fianna Fail)
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On a point of order, the Appropriation Bill goes through this House on the nod every year. While I said yesterday in this House that the Seanad cannot write cheques, this is effectively a cheque for ¤50 billion. It is the one measure we cannot vote against because if we did all public services would have to close. This is crucial legislation, debate on which ceased almost 20 years ago. We should have a debate on this legislation, which all previous Governments put through on the nod. It is a pity that this continues.

Photo of Maurice CumminsMaurice Cummins (Fine Gael)
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The Senator's point is well made.

Photo of Paddy BurkePaddy Burke (Fine Gael)
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The Order of Business has been agreed, as the Senator knows.

Question put.

The Seanad divided by electronic means.

12:00 pm

Photo of Thomas ByrneThomas Byrne (Fianna Fail)
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I wish to point out that the Fianna Fáil Members were present in the Chamber but chose not to vote.

Photo of Paddy BurkePaddy Burke (Fine Gael)
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That is not relevant.

Photo of Terry LeydenTerry Leyden (Fianna Fail)
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It is very relevant.

Photo of Thomas ByrneThomas Byrne (Fianna Fail)
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It is very important to put on the record that Fianna Fáil Senators were present but chose not to vote.

Photo of Trevor Ó ClochartaighTrevor Ó Clochartaigh (Sinn Fein)
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Mar agóid i gcoinne na leasaithe a bhí rialaithe as ord, táimid ag iarraidh, faoi Bhuan Ordú 62(3), "go ndéanfar an vótail arís ar shlí seachas trí mheán leictreonach".

Question put:

The Seanad divided: Tá, 35; Níl, 8.

Tellers: Tá, Senators Paul Coghlan and Aideen Hayden; Níl, Senators David Cullinane and Trevor Ó Clochartaigh..

Question declared carried.

12:05 pm

Photo of Thomas ByrneThomas Byrne (Fianna Fail)
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On a point of order, I wish to indicate, for the record, that Fianna Fáil Senators were present in the Chamber for the walk through vote but that they chose not to take part.

Photo of Paddy BurkePaddy Burke (Fine Gael)
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That is not a point of order.