Seanad debates

Tuesday, 7 July 2009

12:00 pm

Photo of Donie CassidyDonie Cassidy (Fianna Fail)
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I said on the Order of Business that I would review progress and in that regard I am proposing an amendment to the Order of Business that on completion of Committee Stage, given the possibility of amendments being tabled on Report Stage, the House will suspend for 30 minutes to allow matters to proceed in an orderly manner.

Photo of Frances FitzgeraldFrances Fitzgerald (Fine Gael)
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On a point of order, is the Leader proposing that Report Stage be taken after the 30 minute sos? My understanding is that the Bills Office will not be in a position to republish the Bill as amended. Perhaps the Leader will clarify that matter. Is the Leader suggesting a half hour break following which it is proposed to take Report Stage?

Photo of Pat MoylanPat Moylan (Fianna Fail)
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My information is that if the Government amendments are accepted, the Bill will have to be reprinted and will not be available this evening.

Photo of Frances FitzgeraldFrances Fitzgerald (Fine Gael)
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The Government has tabled amendments and it will not, therefore, be possible to take Report Stage tonight-----

Photo of Pat MoylanPat Moylan (Fianna Fail)
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No.

Photo of Frances FitzgeraldFrances Fitzgerald (Fine Gael)
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-----because the Bills Office will not be republish it.

Photo of Pat MoylanPat Moylan (Fianna Fail)
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If the Government amendments are accepted.

Photo of Frances FitzgeraldFrances Fitzgerald (Fine Gael)
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The Government has tabled amendments to the Bill, as has Fine Gael. If the amendments are accepted by the House it will not be possible to take Report Stage tonight.

Photo of Donie CassidyDonie Cassidy (Fianna Fail)
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We can review the matter on completion of Committee Stage.

Photo of Frances FitzgeraldFrances Fitzgerald (Fine Gael)
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That shows the nonsense of trying to push everything through.

Photo of Ivana BacikIvana Bacik (Independent)
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On a point of order, is the Leader saying Report Stage will be taken tonight?

Photo of Frances FitzgeraldFrances Fitzgerald (Fine Gael)
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The Government is not prepared to face up to reality.

Photo of Pat MoylanPat Moylan (Fianna Fail)
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If there are amendments for Report Stage-----

Photo of Frances FitzgeraldFrances Fitzgerald (Fine Gael)
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There will be.

Photo of Pat MoylanPat Moylan (Fianna Fail)
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------it is cut and dry the Bill will not be republished tonight.

Photo of Frances FitzgeraldFrances Fitzgerald (Fine Gael)
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This is playing games. On a point of order, we know the Government has tabled amendments to the Bill.

Photo of Pat MoylanPat Moylan (Fianna Fail)
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I cannot judge that at this point. I am saying that if amendments are accepted, the Bill will have to be republished.

Photo of Frances FitzgeraldFrances Fitzgerald (Fine Gael)
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The Government has tabled amendments. Why are we playing games?

Photo of David NorrisDavid Norris (Independent)
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Can the Leader explain to the House why it is possible to have a half hour sos-----

Photo of John Paul PhelanJohn Paul Phelan (Fine Gael)
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The Cathaoirleach is judging us on this side of the House.

Photo of Pat MoylanPat Moylan (Fianna Fail)
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I am not judging anyone.

Photo of David NorrisDavid Norris (Independent)
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-----between the end of Committee Stage and the commencement of Report Stage and not to have a sos in order that proper amendments can be tabled on Committee Stage?

Photo of Pat MoylanPat Moylan (Fianna Fail)
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For the information of the House-----

Photo of David NorrisDavid Norris (Independent)
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This is treating the House with absolute contempt. I have been a Member of this House for 21 years and I have never experienced anything like it in my entire political career.

Senators:

Hear, hear.

(Interruptions).

Photo of Liam TwomeyLiam Twomey (Fine Gael)
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This is the greatest joke.

Photo of Frances FitzgeraldFrances Fitzgerald (Fine Gael)
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As in regard to the economy, the Government is not facing up to the reality of what it is doing.

Photo of Pat MoylanPat Moylan (Fianna Fail)
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We are moving on to Committee Stage of the Enforcement of Court Orders (Amendment) Bill 2009.

Photo of David NorrisDavid Norris (Independent)
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I called for a manual vote.

Photo of Pat MoylanPat Moylan (Fianna Fail)
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I did not hear the Senator call for a manual vote.

Photo of Frances FitzgeraldFrances Fitzgerald (Fine Gael)
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He did.

Photo of Pat MoylanPat Moylan (Fianna Fail)
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Who called for a manual vote?

Photo of John Paul PhelanJohn Paul Phelan (Fine Gael)
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Senator David Norris. He stood up and made a speech.

Photo of Pat MoylanPat Moylan (Fianna Fail)
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Senator Norris referred to that earlier.

Photo of John Paul PhelanJohn Paul Phelan (Fine Gael)
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He called for a manual vote during the course of the vote by electronic means. It must be called.

Photo of Pat MoylanPat Moylan (Fianna Fail)
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The result has been announced and we must move on.

Photo of Liam TwomeyLiam Twomey (Fine Gael)
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Senator Norris called for a manual vote.

Photo of Pat MoylanPat Moylan (Fianna Fail)
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We must move on. On a point of clarification, four lists of amendments have been circulated. I ask Members to ensure they have them.

Photo of David NorrisDavid Norris (Independent)
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This is typical of the chaos. It is impossible to follow the amendments which include amendment 1, 1a and a1. Nobody has the slightest clue what is going on.

Photo of Pat MoylanPat Moylan (Fianna Fail)
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A list of all the amendments has been circulated.