Paul Coghlan (Fine Gael)

I strongly agree with previous speakers, particularly Senator Fitzgerald's call to have the debate on the Ryan report truncated, so to speak, to deal with the five volumes of what is a substantial document. I strongly support the calls made by Cardinal Brady and his bishops, which the orders appear to be resisting.

I hope the House will address this issue in a balanced manner through the debate to be held tomorrow. I have no doubt Senators will take a balanced position because, while appalling things happened, particularly in the industrial school divisions of the religious orders, we need to reflect on the fact that many of us received a good education from some of the religious orders, for which we are grateful. While there were undoubtedly rotten apples in the barrel here and there, there were a great many good people and, sadly, the good that any of them did will be interred with their bones, so to speak. No doubt Senators will be balanced. I, too, am grateful to the Leader that he is allowing this debate and, perhaps, further ones.

On the debate the Leader announced for this evening, I note on the Order Paper it is referred to as the National Asset Management Agency, which we have known as NAMA, but he distinctly mentioned the word "bureau". Perhaps he would clarify that.