Fiona O'Malley (Progressive Democrats)

I concur with what Senator White said. We need a debate about the public service and about the specifics. I do not necessarily agree with him that more means better. What we must prove is that one can have a better service with fewer numbers. We should be able to get that. Nor do I agree with Senator White that the House has had umpteen calls for an economics debate. There have been umpteen economics debates. Just because Senator White has not been present for them does not mean they do not happen. They have happened time and again.