Ann Ormonde (Fianna Fail)

Those who have a natural ability should find a path into third level education. I refer in particular to the old-fashioned medical man who has a good bedside manner, not the academic achiever who does not want to sit and listen to a patient talking about his or her illness, although very often the patient may need a chat or a psychological assessment rather than a clinical assessment. That tradition is fading and I blame the points system. We should reconsider this, particularly in relation to medicine. I do not worry about the other areas.

Another worry is that there is now access to European universities. For example, young students can go to university in Budapest. If they study chemistry and biology they can access universities on the Continent with reasonable leaving certificate results. However, should we allow this to happen?

I am very interested in reform of the points system. The system is fair and transparent but there are weaknesses. I know the Minister is interested in that area and I would like to hear her views. Unfortunately I will not be able to wait for the Minister's reply as I have to be somewhere else shortly, but I appreciate her coming here and listening to the points I have raised.