Mary O'Rourke (Fianna Fail)

The programme reported last night on aggression and those who encourage aggression.

Senator Norris proposed an amendment to the Order of Business, as he is entitled to do. The proposal, which was seconded by Senator Ross, is that we take No. 23, motion 11, after the Order of Business. Senator Norris mentioned that the Joint Committee on Transport has unanimously supported the proposed metro, which seems likely to be delayed. He also referred to a submission made by the Alliance Party, which made a powerful point to the committee on Seanad reform. I absolutely refute the suggestion that the Alliance Party does not favour Northern representation in the Seanad. A perusal of the party's letter in The Irish Times this morning makes it that quite clear. The subtext of the letter is that other parties should be considered as well as the main parties. As I distinctly recall, that argument was the burden of the party's submission.

I strongly agree with Senator Minihan's comments about the separation of powers. We are not here to talk about judges. Can I say, in response to Senator Norris, or was it Senator Ross——