Joe O'Toole (Independent)

I use the same approach to connecting arguments, as is normal parliamentary procedure in this House, the other House and any other parliament I have seen. I am clear on what can be ruled in or out of order. It would be completely out of order for us to discuss at length the issue of nurses, cadets, gardaí or whatever, but it is quite in order to raise issues about them to make a connection and to seek information. The Minister of State has taken one group in the section, which I accept and do not wish to discuss, but I say that there should be other groups and I proposed one. In terms of justifying the argument for that, I inquired about the position of other groups. The House needs to know this in order to help it reach a conclusion on this matter.