Mary O'Rourke (Fianna Fail)

The Senator may be sure of it. I recall a case a number of years ago with a particular presiding officer where 27 ballot papers went through unfranked. Although it did not affect that particular election, they were wasted votes. There was no record at all. I favour electronic voting and I hope it can be fully explained in the debate we will have here and that any fears will be laid to rest.

Senator Quinn agreed with Senator Ormonde's comments concerning the Minister for Communications, Marine and Natural Resources, Deputy Dermot Ahern. The Senator also raised a very interesting point about a new national anthem. It is instructive to see the way Ireland's Call is treated and sung. So often, national anthems are not sung on pitches but everyone still knows them. The sentiment of actually being at a match, with the crowds and the anthem rolling is quite strong. This topic was also taken up by another speaker.

Senator Lydon raised the topic of stem cell research. Months ago, Senator Henry asked for that debate here. We can have a debate. I understand a committee is sitting at present which is examining this subject. Senator Minihan was correct when he called for all of the facts to be discussed and for a full debate on this matter. I hope that nobody would make rash, unfounded statements but that we would establish the facts.