Senator Brian Hayes also asked about the Minister for the Environment and Local Government, Deputy Cullen, and the chairing of the group on Seanad reform. I think the Minister has been asked to chair the group because he is involved with councillors throughout the country. I understand that councillors have been activated by the reports of debate on Seanad reform, which is quite right because it is they who have the franchise. I feel the Minister was appointed in that context. I will endeavour to clarify the issue. We hope to have a meeting next week and will see where it is headed.