I cannot see how this would be acceptable. Are the people who put these proposals together committed to more access or less access to information? Every proposal closes down access. Where does that leave us? I cannot connect this with the articulate points made by Senator Mansergh about the culture of wanting to make freedom of information provisions work. I know freedom of information officers who are very committed to what they are doing but they will be implementing the law as they find it. What we are doing is stepping backwards and closing this down. There is a change of culture here.