A report on competitiveness published in 1995 found that of all the countries surveyed Ireland had the most centralised system. That was remarkable, considering there were countries such as China and communist states emerging from the eastern bloc. We must find a mechanism where we will be forced, as councillors, to make decisions. I have no time for the populist politics in which all parties have participated. Fianna Fáil removed rates in 1977. It had nothing to do with local government but was in order to win the election. Fine Gael outbid it in the removal of agricultural rates. Between them agricultural rates were removed.