I return to the sense of place and players going out to lay down their lives for their families and neighbours. It comes to this sometimes in Munster and perhaps also in Connacht. That is one of the reasons towns such as Carlow and Naas have developed senior clubs. There is a sense of place that cannot be found in the senior clubs in Dublin and it explains why prominent clubs such as Wanderers have not performed. Galwegians were top of the All-Ireland League Division One. Reference has been made to Ciaran Fitzgerald, a player from that club who has captained Ireland to the triple crown and the Lions. Ray McLoughlin is another who could be credited for modern international forward play.