It is a pity the Minister had to leave the discussion to attend the House as I was able to continue listening on my rabbit's ears and heard the experts saying the only effect of Luas will be to erect a Berlin Wall against motorists and act as a defence to keep more cars out of the city. It will not shift the number of passengers about which people talked, but we already know that as we have had that argument here. The underground metro system is 100% vital. As the Seanad played a very significant role in amending the legislation to permit it, it is appropriate that we should take a positive interest in it. We should have a debate that will strengthen the Minister's hand in ensuring the capital city gets an effective underground rail system. We can extend it to Dingle eventually.