Senator John Phelan raised the matter of tribunal fees, which was also mentioned in the House yesterday. If we did not have tribunals, however, we would be seeking their establishment. They are doing satisfactory work and lawyers are paid what is deemed to be the appropriate rate or remuneration. I do not intend to go into the issue of whether that is fair. In general, we are pleased with the work that is being undertaken by the tribunals. We are particularly pleased they have come out with strong, cogent statements. The going rate for the job is a matter for those who decide upon such matters and I do not intend to comment further.