Dáil debates

Tuesday, 18 November 2025

2:05 am

Photo of Verona MurphyVerona Murphy (Wexford, Independent)
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You will be aware there is a change. I call on the Government Chief Whip, Deputy Mary Butler, to deliver the business proposal.

Photo of Mary ButlerMary Butler (Waterford, Fianna Fail)
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I move:

That notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, the proposed arrangements as set out in the first Revised Report of the Business Committee are hereby agreed to.

Photo of Verona MurphyVerona Murphy (Wexford, Independent)
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I thank the Chief Whip. Are the proposed arrangements agreed to?

Deputies:

Not agreed.

Photo of Verona MurphyVerona Murphy (Wexford, Independent)
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Deputies, that is absolutely fine. I propose we go with the system of 30 seconds for each Member wishing to speak.

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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Does this Government learn nothing? We had the absolute farce and spectacle of the Lowry Independents being in government and in opposition and all that led to, and here we are today with Leaders' Questions, Questions on Policy or Legislation and Taoiseach's Questions gone. The Government is absolutely scrapping accountability today. Just at the stroke of pen, it is scrapping accountability. There is no talk about business committees any more because the Government does what it wants to do. It never learns and it makes a farce of democracy in the House. We are absolutely opposed to this. The Government never learns and it is making a mess of this place again.

Deputies:

Hear, hear.

Photo of Duncan SmithDuncan Smith (Dublin Fingal East, Labour)
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Notwithstanding the situation the Government has found itself in again, there is no excuse for us not to have Leaders' Questions and not to have Questions on Policy or Legislation. The accountability deficit the Government is committed to is continuing yet again. We are utterly against this change to the Order of Business.

Photo of Cian O'CallaghanCian O'Callaghan (Dublin Bay North, Social Democrats)
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There is absolutely no reason for the Government to abandon questions to the Taoiseach and accountability by the leader of the country today. Why is the Taoiseach not taking questions as he should be today? Just because of events, it should not mean abandoning Leaders' Questions and Questions on Policy or Legislation. There is no reason for the Taoiseach not to take questions.

Photo of Paul MurphyPaul Murphy (Dublin South West, Solidarity)
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It is pretty shameless of the Government to use the occasion of Paschal Donohoe moving on in the world to avoid answering questions today. I also want to say that the statements on paediatric care must be made into questions and answers. We pushed for this at the Business Committee. There has been a long push for a statutory inquiry into the care of children with scoliosis and spina bifida. I understand a memo was meant to go to Cabinet today. People were led to believe it was going to be signed off on but I have heard it was not signed off on at Cabinet today.

Photo of Verona MurphyVerona Murphy (Wexford, Independent)
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Thank you.

(Interruptions).

Photo of Paul MurphyPaul Murphy (Dublin South West, Solidarity)
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It was signed off on. Okay. I ask that we have questions in relation to that.

Photo of Micheál MartinMicheál Martin (Cork South-Central, Fianna Fail)
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The issue was dealt with at Cabinet.

Photo of Michael CollinsMichael Collins (Cork South-West, Independent Ireland Party)
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I do not agree with the change to the Order of Business today. An agreement was made last Thursday, as always. Leaders' Questions and Questions on Policy or Legislation deal with important issues, such as housing and so many matters of deep concern, and they need to be discussed today. Of course, there is also moving the writ for Galway West and now for Dublin Central. We cannot continue here week in, week out without this being discussed. I would appreciate that we have statements on it today.

Photo of Mary ButlerMary Butler (Waterford, Fianna Fail)
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These are exceptional circumstances on the nomination of Members of Government.

(Interruptions).

Photo of Verona MurphyVerona Murphy (Wexford, Independent)
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Allow the courtesy of a response. Please, Deputies.

Photo of Mary ButlerMary Butler (Waterford, Fianna Fail)
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The revised schedule accommodates this and ensures we continue with Dáil business, and the Taoiseach will take his questions tomorrow instead of today.

Question put: "That the business proposal by the Government Chief Whip be agreed to."

The Dáil divided: Tá, 83; Níl, 67; Staon, 0.


Tellers: Tá, Deputies Mary Butler and Emer Currie; Níl, Deputies Pádraig Mac Lochlainn and Duncan Smith.

William Aird, Catherine Ardagh, Grace Boland, Tom Brabazon, Brian Brennan, Shay Brennan, Colm Brophy, James Browne, Colm Burke, Mary Butler, Paula Butterly, Jerry Buttimer, Malcolm Byrne, Michael Cahill, Catherine Callaghan, Dara Calleary, Seán Canney, Micheál Carrigy, Jennifer Carroll MacNeill, Jack Chambers, Peter Cleere, John Clendennen, Niall Collins, John Connolly, Joe Cooney, John Cummins, Emer Currie, Martin Daly, Aisling Dempsey, Cormac Devlin, Alan Dillon, Albert Dolan, Paschal Donohoe, Timmy Dooley, Frank Feighan, Seán Fleming, Pat Gallagher, James Geoghegan, Marian Harkin, Simon Harris, Danny Healy-Rae, Michael Healy-Rae, Barry Heneghan, Martin Heydon, Emer Higgins, Keira Keogh, James Lawless, Micheál Martin, David Maxwell, Paul McAuliffe, Noel McCarthy, Tony McCormack, Helen McEntee, Séamus McGrath, Erin McGreehan, Kevin Moran, Aindrias Moynihan, Michael Moynihan, Shane Moynihan, Jennifer Murnane O'Connor, Michael Murphy, Hildegarde Naughton, Joe Neville, Jim O'Callaghan, Maeve O'Connell, James O'Connor, Willie O'Dea, Kieran O'Donnell, Patrick O'Donovan, Ryan O'Meara, John Paul O'Shea, Christopher O'Sullivan, Pádraig O'Sullivan, Naoise Ó Cearúil, Seán Ó Fearghaíl, Naoise Ó Muirí, Neale Richmond, Peter Roche, Eamon Scanlon, Brendan Smith, Edward Timmins, Gillian Toole, Robert Troy.

Níl

Ciarán Ahern, Ivana Bacik, Cathy Bennett, Richard Boyd Barrett, John Brady, Pat Buckley, Joanna Byrne, Holly Cairns, Matt Carthy, Sorca Clarke, Michael Collins, Rose Conway-Walsh, Ruth Coppinger, Réada Cronin, David Cullinane, Jen Cummins, Pa Daly, Pearse Doherty, Paul Donnelly, Dessie Ellis, Aidan Farrelly, Gary Gannon, Sinéad Gibney, Ann Graves, Johnny Guirke, Séamus Healy, Rory Hearne, Eoghan Kenny, Martin Kenny, Claire Kerrane, Paul Lawless, George Lawlor, Pádraig Mac Lochlainn, Mary Lou McDonald, Donna McGettigan, Conor McGuinness, Denise Mitchell, Paul Murphy, Johnny Mythen, Gerald Nash, Natasha Newsome Drennan, Shónagh Ní Raghallaigh, Carol Nolan, Cian O'Callaghan, Robert O'Donoghue, Ken O'Flynn, Roderic O'Gorman, Louis O'Hara, Louise O'Reilly, Darren O'Rourke, Eoin Ó Broin, Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire, Ruairí Ó Murchú, Aengus Ó Snodaigh, Fionntán Ó Súilleabháin, Liam Quaide, Maurice Quinlivan, Pádraig Rice, Conor Sheehan, Marie Sherlock, Duncan Smith, Brian Stanley, Peadar Tóibín, Mark Wall, Charles Ward, Mark Ward, Jennifer Whitmore.

Question declared carried.