Dáil debates

Tuesday, 17 October 2023

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate

Hospital Services

9:30 pm

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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I apologise. Whenever the Minister for Health is not available when a Topical Issue comes up, the protocol is that we are to be made aware that the Minister is not available. That has not happened in this case. We cannot proceed. The Minister for Health has not notified us.

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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Are the Deputies not proceeding?

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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That is the protocol. It is clearly established. I am the Sinn Féin Whip. The protocol is that we are to be made aware of it.

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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I understand the protocol but it is just a pity that we did not know.

Photo of Pearse DohertyPearse Doherty (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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We did not know.

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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The Deputies did not know.

Photo of Pearse DohertyPearse Doherty (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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Nobody but the Minister for Health-----

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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The Minister for Health has to be-----

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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One speaker, please. I am not going against the Deputies. Let us just try to tease this out.

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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Of course.

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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The Deputies are withdrawing their Topical Issue.

Photo of Pearse DohertyPearse Doherty (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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No, we are deferring it.

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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We ask that it be deferred to tomorrow when the Minister is available. That is the established protocol.

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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The Deputies are deferring it. The Ceann Comhairle will be here so he will make the final decision.

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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In fairness to the Ceann Comhairle, he has made a stand on-----

Photo of Pearse DohertyPearse Doherty (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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Can we get a ruling now?

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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It is all right. I am not disagreeing with the Deputies at all.

Photo of Pearse DohertyPearse Doherty (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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I am just looking for a ruling.

Photo of Jack ChambersJack Chambers (Dublin West, Fianna Fail)
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I have been asked to respond on behalf of the Minister for Health. It is up to the Deputies.

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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That is against the protocol that has been established-----

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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The option is usually given to all Deputies when they table a Topical Issue if they want to withdraw it before then. It is okay.

Photo of Pearse DohertyPearse Doherty (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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Can I get clarification from the Leas-Cheann Comhairle as the Chair here today? The issue is that nearly 100 health professionals have written to the Minister - I am not going to go into it. Therefore, it is really important that the Minister himself is present. We have a right to ask for a deferral until he is here.

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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No one is-----

Photo of Pearse DohertyPearse Doherty (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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Is that right being upheld-----

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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Absolutely.

Photo of Pearse DohertyPearse Doherty (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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-----or is it subject to-----

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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No.

Photo of Pearse DohertyPearse Doherty (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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It is being upheld.

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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That right is being upheld.

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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I thank the Leas-Cheann Comhairle.

Photo of Pearse DohertyPearse Doherty (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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Will this be deferred until tomorrow?

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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Whether it goes into tomorrow will be up to the Ceann Comhairle.

Photo of Pearse DohertyPearse Doherty (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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If the Minister is available.