Dáil debates

Thursday, 8 July 2021

4:45 pm

Photo of Paschal DonohoePaschal Donohoe (Dublin Central, Fine Gael)
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I move:

That, notwithstanding the Order of Business of Tuesday, No. 9a, motion regarding the Finance (Local Property Tax) (Amendment) Bill 2021, shall be taken now and that any division demanded thereon shall be taken immediately.

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Ceann Comhairle; Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Is that proposal agreed?

Photo of Mattie McGrathMattie McGrath (Tipperary, Independent)
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It is not agreed.

Photo of Mairead FarrellMairead Farrell (Galway West, Sinn Fein)
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It is not agreed. It was proposed yesterday-----

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Ceann Comhairle; Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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I cannot hear you, Deputy. We are not having a debate on it, but it is not agreed.

Photo of Paul MurphyPaul Murphy (Dublin South West, RISE)
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On a point of order, can we not discuss the proposal for at least a minute? He is attempting to ram this through.

Photo of Mairead FarrellMairead Farrell (Galway West, Sinn Fein)
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There was no request for a waiver at the Business Committee either. We were discussing this in the finance committee yesterday and there was no agreement on it. Now it is just being railroaded through. That is absolutely unacceptable.

Photo of Paul MurphyPaul Murphy (Dublin South West, RISE)
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On a point of order, a Cheann Comhairle, for the Minister to come to the House on a Thursday, just before the close of business, to attempt to ram this through with no discussion whatsoever-----

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Ceann Comhairle; Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Excuse me, Deputy Murphy.

Photo of Paul MurphyPaul Murphy (Dublin South West, RISE)
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This will have an impact of €500 for hundreds of thousands of homes.

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Ceann Comhairle; Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Please resume your seat, Deputy Murphy.

Photo of Paul MurphyPaul Murphy (Dublin South West, RISE)
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A Cheann Comhairle, we need to debate it at least.

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Ceann Comhairle; Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Please resume your seat. I am not taking a contribution from Deputy Mattie McGrath either. This matter was before the Business Committee this morning and nobody objected.

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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A Cheann Comhairle, I have to protest.

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Ceann Comhairle; Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Resume your seat, please.

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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That is an inaccurate record of what happened, a Cheann Comhairle. Please let me protest about that.

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Ceann Comhairle; Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Protest away. Let me rephrase it. I, personally, have no recollection of anybody objecting to it at the Business Committee.

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Ceann Comhairle; Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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I have to put the question.

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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The process was not followed properly.

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Ceann Comhairle; Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Resume your seat, Deputy.

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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No, a Cheann Comhairle. You made a statement that was wrong. It is just wrong.

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Ceann Comhairle; Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Resume your seat.

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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The process was not followed. You are bringing the Business Committee into disrepute.

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Ceann Comhairle; Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Please do not be disorderly.

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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You are bringing our committee into disrepute. I want to be clear about that. The process was not followed.

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Ceann Comhairle; Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Deputy, you are bringing the House into disrepute.

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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The process was not followed.

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Ceann Comhairle; Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Resume your seat. If you have respect for the House, you will resume your seat.

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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I am asking for a point of clarification.

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Ceann Comhairle; Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Chair is on its feet and the Member will resume his seat.

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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You have made a statement that brings the Business Committee into disrepute. I am asking for a point of clarification.

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Ceann Comhairle; Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Resume your seat, please.

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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A point of clarification.

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Ceann Comhairle; Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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No. Resume your seat. The question has been put.

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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Was a waiver requested of the Business Committee?

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Ceann Comhairle; Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Deputy, do not force me to suspend the sitting.

Photo of Pádraig Mac LochlainnPádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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Was a waiver requested of our committee?

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Ceann Comhairle; Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Deputy, do not force me to suspend. The question has been put.

Question put:

The Dáil divided: Tá, 68; Níl, 44; Staon, 0.


Tellers: Tá, Deputies Brendan Griffin and Jack Chambers; Níl, Deputies Mattie McGrath and Pádraig Mac Lochlainn.

Cathal Berry, James Browne, Richard Bruton, Colm Burke, Peter Burke, Mary Butler, Jackie Cahill, Dara Calleary, Joe Carey, Jack Chambers, Niall Collins, Patrick Costello, Michael Creed, Cathal Crowe, Cormac Devlin, Stephen Donnelly, Paschal Donohoe, Francis Noel Duffy, Bernard Durkan, Damien English, Alan Farrell, Frank Feighan, Joe Flaherty, Charles Flanagan, Seán Fleming, Norma Foley, Noel Grealish, Brendan Griffin, Seán Haughey, Martin Heydon, Neasa Hourigan, Heather Humphreys, Paul Kehoe, John Lahart, James Lawless, Brian Leddin, Josepha Madigan, Catherine Martin, Steven Matthews, Paul McAuliffe, Charlie McConalogue, Michael McGrath, Joe McHugh, Aindrias Moynihan, Michael Moynihan, Jennifer Murnane O'Connor, Verona Murphy, Hildegarde Naughton, Malcolm Noonan, Darragh O'Brien, Joe O'Brien, Jim O'Callaghan, James O'Connor, Willie O'Dea, Kieran O'Donnell, Patrick O'Donovan, Fergus O'Dowd, Roderic O'Gorman, Christopher O'Sullivan, Pádraig O'Sullivan, Marc Ó Cathasaigh, Éamon Ó Cuív, John Paul Phelan, Anne Rabbitte, Neale Richmond, Michael Ring, Matt Shanahan, Brendan Smith.

Níl

Richard Boyd Barrett, John Brady, Martin Browne, Pat Buckley, Sorca Clarke, Rose Conway-Walsh, Réada Cronin, Seán Crowe, David Cullinane, Pa Daly, Paul Donnelly, Dessie Ellis, Mairead Farrell, Michael Fitzmaurice, Kathleen Funchion, Gary Gannon, Johnny Guirke, Marian Harkin, Alan Kelly, Gino Kenny, Martin Kenny, Claire Kerrane, Pádraig Mac Lochlainn, Mattie McGrath, Denise Mitchell, Imelda Munster, Catherine Murphy, Paul Murphy, Johnny Mythen, Gerald Nash, Cian O'Callaghan, Darren O'Rourke, Eoin Ó Broin, Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire, Ruairi Ó Murchú, Maurice Quinlivan, Patricia Ryan, Róisín Shortall, Bríd Smith, Brian Stanley, Pauline Tully, Mark Ward, Jennifer Whitmore, Violet Wynne.

Question declared carried.

Deputy Holly Cairns did not vote in this division due to an agreed pairing arrangement with Minister Helen McEntee for the duration of the Minister’s maternity leave.