Dáil debates

Thursday, 17 October 2019

Living Wage: Motion (Resumed) [Private Members]

 

The following motion was moved by Deputy Quinlivan on Tuesday, 15 October 2019:

Debate resumed on amendment No. 4:

- (Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection)

1:45 pm

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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I must now deal with a postponed division relating to the motion regarding the living wage. On Tuesday, 15 October 2019, on the question that the amendment to the motion be agreed to, a division was claimed and in accordance with Standing Order 70(2), that division must be taken now.

Amendment put:

The Dáil divided: Tá, 36; Níl, 67; Staon, 1.


Tellers: Tá, Deputies Seán Kyne and Peter Burke; Níl, Deputies Aengus Ó Snodaigh and Denise Mitchell.

Maria Bailey, Seán Barrett, Pat Breen, Colm Brophy, Richard Bruton, Peter Burke, Seán Canney, Joe Carey, Simon Coveney, Michael Creed, Michael D'Arcy, Jim Daly, John Deasy, Pat Deering, Regina Doherty, Andrew Doyle, Bernard Durkan, Damien English, Alan Farrell, Brendan Griffin, Simon Harris, Martin Heydon, Seán Kyne, Josepha Madigan, Joe McHugh, Mary Mitchell O'Connor, Kevin Moran, Tom Neville, Michael Noonan, Kate O'Connell, Patrick O'Donovan, John Paul Phelan, Michael Ring, Noel Rock, David Stanton, Katherine Zappone.

Níl

Bobby Aylward, Mick Barry, Richard Boyd Barrett, John Brady, John Brassil, Declan Breathnach, Tommy Broughan, Pat Buckley, Joan Burton, Shane Cassells, Jack Chambers, Lisa Chambers, Joan Collins, Niall Collins, Catherine Connolly, Ruth Coppinger, Barry Cowen, Seán Crowe, David Cullinane, John Curran, Pearse Doherty, Stephen Donnelly, Timmy Dooley, Dessie Ellis, Michael Fitzmaurice, Peter Fitzpatrick, Seán Fleming, Kathleen Funchion, Michael Harty, Seán Haughey, Séamus Healy, Martin Kenny, John Lahart, Michael Lowry, Marc MacSharry, Catherine Martin, Charlie McConalogue, Mary Lou McDonald, Michael McGrath, John McGuinness, Denise Mitchell, Imelda Munster, Margaret Murphy O'Mahony, Catherine Murphy, Eugene Murphy, Paul Murphy, Carol Nolan, Willie O'Dea, Kevin O'Keeffe, Fiona O'Loughlin, Louise O'Reilly, Frank O'Rourke, Jan O'Sullivan, Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin, Éamon Ó Cuív, Aengus Ó Snodaigh, Willie Penrose, Maurice Quinlivan, Anne Rabbitte, Brendan Ryan, Eamon Scanlon, Seán Sherlock, Róisín Shortall, Brendan Smith, Bríd Smith, Brian Stanley, Peadar Tóibín.

Staon

Mattie McGrath.

Amendment declared lost.

Photo of Robert TroyRobert Troy (Longford-Westmeath, Fianna Fail)
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I move amendment No. 2:

To delete all words after “Dáil Éireann:” and substitute the following: “notes:
— the valuable contribution that workers make to Irish society;

— the commencement of the Employment (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 2018 in March 2019, which restricts the use of zero-hour contracts;

— micro-, small- and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) currently employ over one million people in Ireland, according to the Central Statistics Office;

— that the cost of employer liability insurance and public liability insurance is a direct threat to the competitiveness and sustainability of many businesses throughout the country, including SMEs;

— the failure of the Government to tackle the high cost of living in Ireland, in particular, in the areas of housing and childcare; and

— that the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) average for childcare costs represents about 12.6 per cent of net family income, whereas in Ireland the figure stands at about 27.4 per cent; and
calls on the Government:
— as the largest employer in the country, to act as a role model in terms of implementing the living wage in the public sector, which will set a broader standard without placing an undue legislative burden upon employers struggling to keep down costs;

— to refer the question of the living wage to the Low Pay Commission;

— to tackle the high cost of living in Ireland, including housing, childcare, insurance and public transport;

— to accelerate the roll-out of the affordable purchase scheme for housing;

— to establish a national affordable rent scheme; and

— to tackle the high cost of insurance which is crippling businesses and progress the Civil Liability and Courts (Amendment) Bill 2019.”

Amendment put:

The Dáil divided: Tá, 30; Níl, 73; Staon, 1.


Tellers: Tá, Deputies John Curran and John Lahart; Níl, Deputies Aengus Ó Snodaigh and Denise Mitchell.

Bobby Aylward, John Brassil, Declan Breathnach, Shane Cassells, Jack Chambers, Lisa Chambers, Niall Collins, Barry Cowen, John Curran, Stephen Donnelly, Timmy Dooley, Seán Fleming, Pat Gallagher, Michael Harty, Seán Haughey, John Lahart, Marc MacSharry, Charlie McConalogue, Michael McGrath, John McGuinness, Margaret Murphy O'Mahony, Eugene Murphy, Willie O'Dea, Kevin O'Keeffe, Fiona O'Loughlin, Frank O'Rourke, Éamon Ó Cuív, Anne Rabbitte, Eamon Scanlon, Brendan Smith.

Níl

Maria Bailey, Seán Barrett, Mick Barry, Richard Boyd Barrett, John Brady, Colm Brophy, Tommy Broughan, Richard Bruton, Pat Buckley, Peter Burke, Joan Burton, Seán Canney, Joe Carey, Joan Collins, Catherine Connolly, Ruth Coppinger, Simon Coveney, Michael Creed, Seán Crowe, David Cullinane, Michael D'Arcy, Jim Daly, John Deasy, Pat Deering, Pearse Doherty, Regina Doherty, Andrew Doyle, Bernard Durkan, Dessie Ellis, Damien English, Alan Farrell, Michael Fitzmaurice, Peter Fitzpatrick, Kathleen Funchion, Brendan Griffin, Simon Harris, Séamus Healy, Martin Heydon, Gino Kenny, Martin Kenny, Seán Kyne, Michael Lowry, Josepha Madigan, Catherine Martin, Mary Lou McDonald, Joe McHugh, Mary Mitchell O'Connor, Denise Mitchell, Imelda Munster, Catherine Murphy, Paul Murphy, Tom Neville, Carol Nolan, Michael Noonan, Kate O'Connell, Patrick O'Donovan, Louise O'Reilly, Jan O'Sullivan, Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin, Aengus Ó Snodaigh, Willie Penrose, John Paul Phelan, Maurice Quinlivan, Michael Ring, Noel Rock, Brendan Ryan, Seán Sherlock, Róisín Shortall, Bríd Smith, Brian Stanley, David Stanton, Peadar Tóibín, Katherine Zappone.

Staon

Mattie McGrath.

Amendment declared lost.

1:55 pm

Photo of Willie PenroseWillie Penrose (Longford-Westmeath, Labour)
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I move amendment No. 1:

To delete all words after “not to increase the national minimum wage; and” and substitute the following:“— instruct the Low Pay Commission to ensure that the national minimum wage becomes a genuine living wage from 2020 onwards, with appropriate legal protections for small- or medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) who can show they cannot afford to pay the living wage.”

Amendment put:

The Dáil divided: Tá, 16; Níl, 85; Staon, 1.


Tellers: Tá, Deputies Brendan Ryan and Jan O'Sullivan; Níl, Deputies Aengus Ó Snodaigh and Denise Mitchell.

Mick Barry, Richard Boyd Barrett, Tommy Broughan, Joan Burton, Catherine Connolly, Ruth Coppinger, Gino Kenny, Catherine Martin, Catherine Murphy, Paul Murphy, Jan O'Sullivan, Willie Penrose, Brendan Ryan, Seán Sherlock, Róisín Shortall, Bríd Smith.

Níl

Bobby Aylward, Maria Bailey, Seán Barrett, John Brady, John Brassil, Colm Brophy, Richard Bruton, Pat Buckley, Peter Burke, Dara Calleary, Seán Canney, Joe Carey, Pat Casey, Shane Cassells, Jack Chambers, Lisa Chambers, Joan Collins, Niall Collins, Simon Coveney, Barry Cowen, Michael Creed, Seán Crowe, David Cullinane, John Curran, Michael D'Arcy, Jim Daly, John Deasy, Pat Deering, Pearse Doherty, Regina Doherty, Stephen Donnelly, Timmy Dooley, Andrew Doyle, Bernard Durkan, Dessie Ellis, Damien English, Alan Farrell, Michael Fitzmaurice, Peter Fitzpatrick, Seán Fleming, Kathleen Funchion, Brendan Griffin, Simon Harris, Michael Harty, Seán Haughey, Séamus Healy, Martin Heydon, Martin Kenny, Seán Kyne, John Lahart, Michael Lowry, Josepha Madigan, Charlie McConalogue, Mary Lou McDonald, Michael McGrath, John McGuinness, Joe McHugh, Mary Mitchell O'Connor, Denise Mitchell, Imelda Munster, Margaret Murphy O'Mahony, Eugene Murphy, Tom Neville, Michael Noonan, Kate O'Connell, Willie O'Dea, Patrick O'Donovan, Kevin O'Keeffe, Fiona O'Loughlin, Louise O'Reilly, Frank O'Rourke, Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin, Éamon Ó Cuív, Aengus Ó Snodaigh, John Paul Phelan, Maurice Quinlivan, Anne Rabbitte, Michael Ring, Noel Rock, Eamon Scanlon, Brendan Smith, Brian Stanley, David Stanton, Peadar Tóibín, Katherine Zappone.

Staon

Mattie McGrath.

Amendment declared lost.

2:05 pm

Photo of Ruth CoppingerRuth Coppinger (Dublin West, Solidarity)
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I move amendment No. 3:

To delete all words after “not to increase the national minimum wage; and” and substitute the following:“—introduce a minimum wage of €12.30 per hour in 2020 as a step towards €15 per hour.”

Amendment put:

The Dáil divided: Tá, 18; Níl, 81; Staon, 0.


Tellers: Tá, Deputies Mick Barry and Ruth Coppinger; Níl, Deputies Aengus Ó Snodaigh and Denise Mitchell.

Mick Barry, Richard Boyd Barrett, Tommy Broughan, Joan Burton, Joan Collins, Catherine Connolly, Ruth Coppinger, Séamus Healy, Gino Kenny, Catherine Martin, Catherine Murphy, Paul Murphy, Jan O'Sullivan, Willie Penrose, Brendan Ryan, Seán Sherlock, Róisín Shortall, Bríd Smith.

Níl

Bobby Aylward, Maria Bailey, Seán Barrett, John Brady, John Brassil, Colm Brophy, Richard Bruton, Pat Buckley, Peter Burke, Dara Calleary, Seán Canney, Joe Carey, Pat Casey, Shane Cassells, Jack Chambers, Lisa Chambers, Niall Collins, Simon Coveney, Barry Cowen, Michael Creed, Seán Crowe, David Cullinane, John Curran, Jim Daly, John Deasy, Pat Deering, Pearse Doherty, Regina Doherty, Stephen Donnelly, Andrew Doyle, Bernard Durkan, Dessie Ellis, Damien English, Alan Farrell, Michael Fitzmaurice, Peter Fitzpatrick, Seán Fleming, Kathleen Funchion, Brendan Griffin, Simon Harris, Michael Harty, Seán Haughey, Martin Heydon, Martin Kenny, Seán Kyne, John Lahart, Michael Lowry, Josepha Madigan, Charlie McConalogue, Mary Lou McDonald, Mattie McGrath, Michael McGrath, Joe McHugh, Mary Mitchell O'Connor, Denise Mitchell, Imelda Munster, Margaret Murphy O'Mahony, Eugene Murphy, Tom Neville, Michael Noonan, Kate O'Connell, Willie O'Dea, Patrick O'Donovan, Kevin O'Keeffe, Fiona O'Loughlin, Louise O'Reilly, Frank O'Rourke, Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin, Éamon Ó Cuív, Aengus Ó Snodaigh, John Paul Phelan, Maurice Quinlivan, Anne Rabbitte, Michael Ring, Noel Rock, Eamon Scanlon, Brendan Smith, Brian Stanley, David Stanton, Peadar Tóibín, Katherine Zappone.

Amendment declared lost.

Motion agreed to.