Dáil debates
Thursday, 19 October 2017
Correcting Pension Inequities: Motion (Resumed) [Private Members]
1:45 pm
Pat Gallagher (Donegal, Fianna Fail)
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I must now deal with a postponed division relating to the motion regarding correcting pension inequities. On Wednesday, 18 October 2017, on the question that the amendment to the motion be agreed to, a division was claimed and in accordance with Standing Order 70(2), that division must be taken now.
Tá
Maria Bailey, Seán Barrett, Pat Breen, Colm Brophy, Richard Bruton, Catherine Byrne, Seán Canney, Joe Carey, Marcella Corcoran Kennedy, Michael Creed, Jim Daly, Regina Doherty, Paschal Donohoe, Andrew Doyle, Bernard Durkan, Damien English, Alan Farrell, Peter Fitzpatrick, Charles Flanagan, Brendan Griffin, John Halligan, Simon Harris, Martin Heydon, Heather Humphreys, Paul Kehoe, Josepha Madigan, Finian McGrath, Joe McHugh, Tony McLoughlin, Mary Mitchell O'Connor, Kevin Moran, Eoghan Murphy, Denis Naughten, Hildegarde Naughton, Tom Neville, Michael Noonan, Kate O'Connell, Patrick O'Donovan, Fergus O'Dowd, John Paul Phelan, Noel Rock, Shane Ross, David Stanton, Katherine Zappone.
Níl
Gerry Adams, Bobby Aylward, Mick Barry, Richard Boyd Barrett, John Brady, John Brassil, Declan Breathnach, Tommy Broughan, James Browne, Pat Buckley, Mary Butler, Thomas Byrne, Jackie Cahill, Dara Calleary, Pat Casey, Shane Cassells, Jack Chambers, Lisa Chambers, Joan Collins, Michael Collins, Catherine Connolly, Ruth Coppinger, Barry Cowen, Seán Crowe, David Cullinane, John Curran, Clare Daly, Pearse Doherty, Stephen Donnelly, Timmy Dooley, Dessie Ellis, Martin Ferris, Michael Fitzmaurice, Seán Fleming, Kathleen Funchion, Noel Grealish, Seán Haughey, Danny Healy-Rae, Séamus Healy, Brendan Howlin, Billy Kelleher, Gino Kenny, Martin Kenny, John Lahart, Michael Lowry, Marc MacSharry, Catherine Martin, Mary Lou McDonald, Mattie McGrath, Michael McGrath, John McGuinness, Aindrias Moynihan, Michael Moynihan, Imelda Munster, Catherine Murphy, Paul Murphy, Carol Nolan, Darragh O'Brien, Jonathan O'Brien, Jim O'Callaghan, Willie O'Dea, Kevin O'Keeffe, Fiona O'Loughlin, Louise O'Reilly, Frank O'Rourke, Jan O'Sullivan, Maureen O'Sullivan, Eoin Ó Broin, Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin, Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire, Aengus Ó Snodaigh, Willie Penrose, Maurice Quinlivan, Anne Rabbitte, Brendan Ryan, Eamon Ryan, Eamon Scanlon, Róisín Shortall, Brendan Smith, Bríd Smith, Niamh Smyth, Brian Stanley, Peadar Tóibín, Robert Troy, Mick Wallace.
Staon
1:55 pm
John Brady (Wicklow, Sinn Fein)
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I move amendment No. 2:
(a) To insert the following words after "that reversal of the 2012 changes to the State pension would cost €60 million;":"— further acknowledges that there are more 65 years olds than any other age group in the State on Jobseekers payments;"; and(b)To insert the following words after "should be given the option of continuing to work.":"— the reinstatement of the State Pension Transition until such time as mandatory retirement ages are abolished and older people are guaranteed a fair and sustainable pension at retirement via a comprehensive programme of pension system reform, which would cost €84 million."
Tá
Gerry Adams, Mick Barry, Richard Boyd Barrett, John Brady, Tommy Broughan, Pat Buckley, Joan Collins, Catherine Connolly, Ruth Coppinger, Seán Crowe, David Cullinane, Clare Daly, Pearse Doherty, Dessie Ellis, Martin Ferris, Michael Fitzmaurice, Kathleen Funchion, Séamus Healy, Brendan Howlin, Gino Kenny, Martin Kenny, Mary Lou McDonald, Catherine Martin, Imelda Munster, Catherine Murphy, Paul Murphy, Carol Nolan, Eoin Ó Broin, Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin, Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire, Aengus Ó Snodaigh, Jonathan O'Brien, Louise O'Reilly, Jan O'Sullivan, Maureen O'Sullivan, Willie Penrose, Maurice Quinlivan, Brendan Ryan, Eamon Ryan, Róisín Shortall, Bríd Smith, Brian Stanley, Peadar Tóibín, Mick Wallace.
Níl
Bobby Aylward, Maria Bailey, Seán Barrett, John Brassil, Declan Breathnach, Colm Brophy, James Browne, Richard Bruton, Mary Butler, Catherine Byrne, Thomas Byrne, Jackie Cahill, Dara Calleary, Seán Canney, Joe Carey, Pat Casey, Shane Cassells, Jack Chambers, Lisa Chambers, Michael Collins, Marcella Corcoran Kennedy, Barry Cowen, Michael Creed, John Curran, Jim Daly, Regina Doherty, Stephen Donnelly, Paschal Donohoe, Timmy Dooley, Andrew Doyle, Bernard Durkan, Damien English, Alan Farrell, Peter Fitzpatrick, Charles Flanagan, Seán Fleming, Noel Grealish, Brendan Griffin, John Halligan, Simon Harris, Seán Haughey, Danny Healy-Rae, Martin Heydon, Heather Humphreys, Paul Kehoe, Billy Kelleher, John Lahart, Michael Lowry, Marc MacSharry, Charlie McConalogue, Finian McGrath, Mattie McGrath, Michael McGrath, John McGuinness, Joe McHugh, Tony McLoughlin, Josepha Madigan, Mary Mitchell O'Connor, Kevin Moran, Aindrias Moynihan, Michael Moynihan, Margaret Murphy O'Mahony, Eoghan Murphy, Denis Naughten, Hildegarde Naughton, Tom Neville, Michael Noonan, Darragh O'Brien, Kate O'Connell, Willie O'Dea, Patrick O'Donovan, Fergus O'Dowd, Kevin O'Keeffe, Fiona O'Loughlin, Frank O'Rourke, John Paul Phelan, Anne Rabbitte, Noel Rock, Shane Ross, Eamon Scanlon, Brendan Smith, Niamh Smyth, David Stanton, Robert Troy, Katherine Zappone.
Staon
2:05 pm
Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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I move amendment No. 1:
To delete all words after “equality of treatment between men and women in relation to pension contributions; and” and substitute the following:
“— restoration of the State pension age to 65, and where a worker wishes to work after retirement age such a decision should not be driven by economic necessity.”
Tá
Gerry Adams, Mick Barry, Richard Boyd Barrett, John Brady, Tommy Broughan, Pat Buckley, Joan Collins, Catherine Connolly, Ruth Coppinger, Seán Crowe, David Cullinane, Clare Daly, Pearse Doherty, Dessie Ellis, Martin Ferris, Kathleen Funchion, Séamus Healy, Gino Kenny, Martin Kenny, Catherine Martin, Mary Lou McDonald, Imelda Munster, Catherine Murphy, Paul Murphy, Carol Nolan, Eoin Ó Broin, Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin, Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire, Aengus Ó Snodaigh, Jonathan O'Brien, Louise O'Reilly, Maureen O'Sullivan, Maurice Quinlivan, Eamon Ryan, Róisín Shortall, Bríd Smith, Brian Stanley, Peadar Tóibín, Mick Wallace.
Níl
Bobby Aylward, Maria Bailey, Seán Barrett, John Brassil, Declan Breathnach, Colm Brophy, James Browne, Richard Bruton, Mary Butler, Catherine Byrne, Thomas Byrne, Jackie Cahill, Dara Calleary, Seán Canney, Joe Carey, Pat Casey, Shane Cassells, Jack Chambers, Lisa Chambers, Michael Collins, Marcella Corcoran Kennedy, Barry Cowen, Michael Creed, John Curran, Jim Daly, Regina Doherty, Stephen Donnelly, Paschal Donohoe, Timmy Dooley, Andrew Doyle, Bernard Durkan, Damien English, Alan Farrell, Peter Fitzpatrick, Charles Flanagan, Seán Fleming, Noel Grealish, Brendan Griffin, John Halligan, Simon Harris, Seán Haughey, Danny Healy-Rae, Martin Heydon, Brendan Howlin, Heather Humphreys, Paul Kehoe, Billy Kelleher, John Lahart, James Lawless, Michael Lowry, Marc MacSharry, Josepha Madigan, Charlie McConalogue, Finian McGrath, Mattie McGrath, Michael McGrath, John McGuinness, Joe McHugh, Tony McLoughlin, Mary Mitchell O'Connor, Kevin Moran, Aindrias Moynihan, Michael Moynihan, Margaret Murphy O'Mahony, Eoghan Murphy, Denis Naughten, Hildegarde Naughton, Tom Neville, Michael Noonan, Darragh O'Brien, Jim O'Callaghan, Kate O'Connell, Willie O'Dea, Patrick O'Donovan, Fergus O'Dowd, Kevin O'Keeffe, Fiona O'Loughlin, Frank O'Rourke, Jan O'Sullivan, Willie Penrose, John Paul Phelan, Anne Rabbitte, Noel Rock, Shane Ross, Brendan Ryan, Eamon Scanlon, Brendan Smith, Niamh Smyth, David Stanton, Robert Troy, Katherine Zappone.
Staon
Catherine Martin (Dublin Rathdown, Green Party)
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I move amendment No. 4:
To delete the words “the current eligibility criteria for pension entitlement to be examined;” and substitute the following:— the current eligibility criteria for pension entitlement to be examined with a focus on differentiated impacts on men, women and carers in the home;
— the publication of the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection’s review of Government pension policy with a focus on differentiated impacts on men and women;
— the Government to indicate a timeline for the retrospective application of the Homemaker’s Scheme to 1973;
— a commitment from Government that any introduction of a total contributions approach from 2020 will be for all pensions;”
Tá
Gerry Adams, Mick Barry, Richard Boyd Barrett, John Brady, Tommy Broughan, Pat Buckley, Joan Collins, Catherine Connolly, Ruth Coppinger, Seán Crowe, David Cullinane, Clare Daly, Pearse Doherty, Dessie Ellis, Martin Ferris, Kathleen Funchion, Séamus Healy, Brendan Howlin, Gino Kenny, Martin Kenny, Catherine Martin, Mary Lou McDonald, Imelda Munster, Catherine Murphy, Paul Murphy, Carol Nolan, Eoin Ó Broin, Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin, Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire, Aengus Ó Snodaigh, Jonathan O'Brien, Louise O'Reilly, Jan O'Sullivan, Maureen O'Sullivan, Willie Penrose, Maurice Quinlivan, Eamon Ryan, Róisín Shortall, Bríd Smith, Brian Stanley, Peadar Tóibín, Mick Wallace.
Níl
Bobby Aylward, Maria Bailey, Seán Barrett, John Brassil, Declan Breathnach, Colm Brophy, James Browne, Richard Bruton, Mary Butler, Catherine Byrne, Thomas Byrne, Jackie Cahill, Dara Calleary, Seán Canney, Joe Carey, Pat Casey, Shane Cassells, Jack Chambers, Lisa Chambers, Michael Collins, Marcella Corcoran Kennedy, Barry Cowen, Michael Creed, John Curran, Jim Daly, Regina Doherty, Stephen Donnelly, Paschal Donohoe, Timmy Dooley, Andrew Doyle, Bernard Durkan, Damien English, Alan Farrell, Peter Fitzpatrick, Charles Flanagan, Seán Fleming, Noel Grealish, Brendan Griffin, John Halligan, Simon Harris, Seán Haughey, Danny Healy-Rae, Martin Heydon, Heather Humphreys, Paul Kehoe, Billy Kelleher, John Lahart, James Lawless, Marc MacSharry, Josepha Madigan, Charlie McConalogue, Finian McGrath, Mattie McGrath, Michael McGrath, John McGuinness, Joe McHugh, Tony McLoughlin, Mary Mitchell O'Connor, Kevin Moran, Aindrias Moynihan, Michael Moynihan, Margaret Murphy O'Mahony, Eoghan Murphy, Denis Naughten, Hildegarde Naughton, Tom Neville, Michael Noonan, Darragh O'Brien, Jim O'Callaghan, Kate O'Connell, Willie O'Dea, Patrick O'Donovan, Fergus O'Dowd, Kevin O'Keeffe, Fiona O'Loughlin, Frank O'Rourke, John Paul Phelan, Anne Rabbitte, Noel Rock, Shane Ross, Eamon Scanlon, Brendan Smith, Niamh Smyth, David Stanton, Robert Troy.
Staon
2:25 pm
Róisín Shortall (Dublin North West, Social Democrats)
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I move amendment No. 5:
To insert the following words after "the band changes from 2012 to be reversed":"and for this to be funded by implementing the 2014 Government promise to change the rules so that no tax relief would deliver retirement incomes in excess of €60,000;"
Tá
Gerry Adams, Mick Barry, Richard Boyd Barrett, John Brady, Tommy Broughan, Pat Buckley, Joan Collins, Catherine Connolly, Ruth Coppinger, Seán Crowe, Clare Daly, Pearse Doherty, Dessie Ellis, Martin Ferris, Michael Fitzmaurice, Kathleen Funchion, Séamus Healy, Brendan Howlin, Gino Kenny, Martin Kenny, Catherine Martin, Mary Lou McDonald, Imelda Munster, Catherine Murphy, Paul Murphy, Carol Nolan, Eoin Ó Broin, Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin, Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire, Aengus Ó Snodaigh, Jonathan O'Brien, Louise O'Reilly, Jan O'Sullivan, Maureen O'Sullivan, Willie Penrose, Maurice Quinlivan, Brendan Ryan, Eamon Ryan, Róisín Shortall, Bríd Smith, Brian Stanley, Mick Wallace.
Níl
Bobby Aylward, Maria Bailey, Seán Barrett, John Brassil, Declan Breathnach, Pat Breen, Colm Brophy, James Browne, Richard Bruton, Mary Butler, Catherine Byrne, Thomas Byrne, Jackie Cahill, Dara Calleary, Seán Canney, Joe Carey, Pat Casey, Shane Cassells, Jack Chambers, Lisa Chambers, Michael Collins, Marcella Corcoran Kennedy, Barry Cowen, Michael Creed, John Curran, Jim Daly, Regina Doherty, Stephen Donnelly, Paschal Donohoe, Timmy Dooley, Andrew Doyle, Bernard Durkan, Alan Farrell, Peter Fitzpatrick, Charles Flanagan, Seán Fleming, Noel Grealish, Brendan Griffin, John Halligan, Simon Harris, Seán Haughey, Danny Healy-Rae, Martin Heydon, Heather Humphreys, Paul Kehoe, Billy Kelleher, John Lahart, James Lawless, Marc MacSharry, Josepha Madigan, Charlie McConalogue, Finian McGrath, Mattie McGrath, Michael McGrath, John McGuinness, Joe McHugh, Tony McLoughlin, Mary Mitchell O'Connor, Kevin Moran, Aindrias Moynihan, Michael Moynihan, Margaret Murphy O'Mahony, Eoghan Murphy, Denis Naughten, Hildegarde Naughton, Tom Neville, Michael Noonan, Darragh O'Brien, Jim O'Callaghan, Kate O'Connell, Willie O'Dea, Patrick O'Donovan, Fergus O'Dowd, Kevin O'Keeffe, Fiona O'Loughlin, Frank O'Rourke, John Paul Phelan, Anne Rabbitte, Noel Rock, Shane Ross, Eamon Scanlon, Brendan Smith, Niamh Smyth, David Stanton, Robert Troy, Katherine Zappone.