Dáil debates

Thursday, 2 February 2017

Bus Éireann: Motion (Resumed) [Private Members]

 

The following motion was moved by Deputy Robert Troy on Tuesday, 31 January 2017:

Debate resumed on amendment No. 4:

- (Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport)

1:15 pm

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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I must now deal with a postponed division relating to the motion regarding Bus Éireann. On Tuesday, 31 January 2017, on the question that the amendment to the motion be agreed to, a division was claimed, and in accordance with Standing Order 70(2), that division must be taken now.

Amendment put:

The Dáil divided: Tá, 52; Staon, 0; Níl, 82.


Tellers: Tá, Deputies Regina Doherty and Tony McLoughlin; Níl, Deputies Michael Moynihan and John Lahart.

Maria Bailey, Seán Barrett, Pat Breen, Colm Brophy, Richard Bruton, Peter Burke, Catherine Byrne, Seán Canney, Ciarán Cannon, Joe Carey, Marcella Corcoran Kennedy, Michael Creed, Michael D'Arcy, John Deasy, Pat Deering, Regina Doherty, Paschal Donohoe, Andrew Doyle, Bernard Durkan, Alan Farrell, Frances Fitzgerald, Peter Fitzpatrick, Brendan Griffin, John Halligan, Simon Harris, Michael Harty, Martin Heydon, Heather Humphreys, Paul Kehoe, Seán Kyne, Michael Lowry, Helen McEntee, Finian McGrath, Joe McHugh, Tony McLoughlin, Josepha Madigan, Mary Mitchell O'Connor, Kevin Moran, Dara Murphy, Eoghan Murphy, Hildegarde Naughton, Tom Neville, Michael Noonan, Kate O'Connell, Patrick O'Donovan, Fergus O'Dowd, John Paul Phelan, Michael Ring, Noel Rock, Shane Ross, David Stanton, Katherine Zappone.

Níl

Gerry Adams, Bobby Aylward, Mick Barry, John Brady, John Brassil, Declan Breathnach, James Browne, Pat Buckley, Joan Burton, Mary Butler, Thomas Byrne, Jackie Cahill, Dara Calleary, Shane Cassells, Jack Chambers, Lisa Chambers, Joan Collins, Michael Collins, Niall Collins, Catherine Connolly, Ruth Coppinger, Barry Cowen, Seán Crowe, David Cullinane, John Curran, Clare Daly, Pearse Doherty, Timmy Dooley, Dessie Ellis, Martin Ferris, Michael Fitzmaurice, Seán Fleming, Pat Gallagher, Seán Haughey, Danny Healy-Rae, Séamus Healy, Billy Kelleher, Gino Kenny, Martin Kenny, John Lahart, James Lawless, Marc MacSharry, Catherine Martin, Micheál Martin, Charlie McConalogue, Mary Lou McDonald, Michael McGrath, John McGuinness, Denise Mitchell, Aindrias Moynihan, Michael Moynihan, Imelda Munster, Margaret Murphy O'Mahony, Catherine Murphy, Eugene Murphy, Eoin Ó Broin, Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin, Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire, Aengus Ó Snodaigh, Darragh O'Brien, Jonathan O'Brien, Jim O'Callaghan, Willie O'Dea, Kevin O'Keeffe, Fiona O'Loughlin, Louise O'Reilly, Frank O'Rourke, Jan O'Sullivan, Maureen O'Sullivan, Willie Penrose, Thomas Pringle, Maurice Quinlivan, Brendan Ryan, Eamon Scanlon, Seán Sherlock, Brendan Smith, Bríd Smith, Niamh Smyth, Brian Stanley, Peadar Tóibín, Robert Troy, Mick Wallace.

Amendment declared lost.

1:25 pm

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Is amendment No. 3 being pressed?

Photo of Imelda MunsterImelda Munster (Louth, Sinn Fein)
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I move amendment No. 3:

(a) To insert the following after “struggled to compete with new market entrants in recent years;”:
“ — Bus Éireann’s commercial service, Expressway, has suffered from falling revenues in part due to saturation of the market owing to poor licencing practice by the National Transport Authority;” and
(b) To insert the following after “amendments by Bus Éireann and private operators”:
“— demonstrate leadership by agreeing to intervene in the crisis and recommend to Bus Éireann management that proposed cost-cutting measures are set aside to allow for negotiations between all stakeholders;

— commit to carrying out and publishing a full review of operations of the Expressway service and the Expressway market;

— commit, in conjunction with the NTA, to carry out and publish a review of loss-making routes on which private carriers currently operate, including the number of private licences issued on these routes, when these licences were issued and when these routes ceased to make a profit due to oversaturation, and to provide for the NTA to review the renewal of such licences that are making a loss; and

commit to publishing details of routes and services that have been identified for potential closure.”

Amendment put:

The Dáil divided: Tá, 43; Staon, 0; Níl, 92.


Tellers: Tá, Deputies Imelda Munster and Aengus Ó Snodaigh; Níl, Deputies Michael Moynihan and John Lahart.

Gerry Adams, Mick Barry, Richard Boyd Barrett, John Brady, Pat Buckley, Joan Burton, Joan Collins, Catherine Connolly, Ruth Coppinger, Seán Crowe, David Cullinane, Clare Daly, Pearse Doherty, Dessie Ellis, Martin Ferris, Michael Fitzmaurice, Séamus Healy, Alan Kelly, Gino Kenny, Martin Kenny, Mary Lou McDonald, Catherine Martin, Denise Mitchell, Imelda Munster, Catherine Murphy, Eoin Ó Broin, Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin, Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire, Aengus Ó Snodaigh, Jonathan O'Brien, Louise O'Reilly, Jan O'Sullivan, Maureen O'Sullivan, Willie Penrose, Thomas Pringle, Maurice Quinlivan, Brendan Ryan, Seán Sherlock, Róisín Shortall, Bríd Smith, Brian Stanley, Peadar Tóibín, Mick Wallace.

Níl

Bobby Aylward, Maria Bailey, Seán Barrett, John Brassil, Declan Breathnach, Pat Breen, Colm Brophy, James Browne, Richard Bruton, Peter Burke, Mary Butler, Catherine Byrne, Thomas Byrne, Jackie Cahill, Dara Calleary, Seán Canney, Ciarán Cannon, Joe Carey, Shane Cassells, Jack Chambers, Michael Collins, Marcella Corcoran Kennedy, Barry Cowen, Michael Creed, John Curran, Michael D'Arcy, John Deasy, Pat Deering, Regina Doherty, Paschal Donohoe, Timmy Dooley, Andrew Doyle, Bernard Durkan, Alan Farrell, Frances Fitzgerald, Peter Fitzpatrick, Seán Fleming, Pat Gallagher, Brendan Griffin, John Halligan, Simon Harris, Michael Harty, Seán Haughey, Danny Healy-Rae, Martin Heydon, Heather Humphreys, Paul Kehoe, Billy Kelleher, Seán Kyne, John Lahart, James Lawless, Michael Lowry, Charlie McConalogue, Helen McEntee, Finian McGrath, Michael McGrath, John McGuinness, Joe McHugh, Tony McLoughlin, Marc MacSharry, Josepha Madigan, Micheál Martin, Mary Mitchell O'Connor, Kevin Moran, Aindrias Moynihan, Michael Moynihan, Margaret Murphy O'Mahony, Dara Murphy, Eoghan Murphy, Eugene Murphy, Hildegarde Naughton, Tom Neville, Michael Noonan, Darragh O'Brien, Jim O'Callaghan, Kate O'Connell, Willie O'Dea, Patrick O'Donovan, Fergus O'Dowd, Kevin O'Keeffe, Fiona O'Loughlin, Frank O'Rourke, John Paul Phelan, Michael Ring, Noel Rock, Shane Ross, Eamon Scanlon, Brendan Smith, Niamh Smyth, David Stanton, Robert Troy, Katherine Zappone.

Amendment declared lost.

1:35 pm

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Is amendment No. 1 being pressed?

Photo of Brendan  RyanBrendan Ryan (Dublin Fingal, Labour)
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I move amendment No. 1:

To insert the following after “Bus Éireann and private operators”:

- ensure a level playing field for all operators, avoid a race to the bottom and safeguard the interests of workers by committing to a sectoral employment order setting out minimum pay rates, as well as pension and sick pay schemes for employees across the sector.

Amendment put.

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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In view of the fact the Fianna Fáil Party is not nominating tellers, and having regard to Standing Order 72, when one party fails to provide tellers, it is considered that the proposal is carried. I deem amendment No. 1 carried.

Amendment agreed to.

1:40 pm

Photo of Mick BarryMick Barry (Cork North Central, Anti-Austerity Alliance)
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I move amendment No. 2:

To delete all words after “Dáil Éireann” and substitute the following:

“recognises that:— Bus Éireann’s financially parlous state arises in large measure from the legacy of a cut to the State subsidy which in 2016 was still €12 million less than 2009 levels;

— this has been further compounded by a financial contribution from the Department of Social Protection for free travel that is completely inadequate when approximately 30% of all passengers availed of free travel in 2016;

— the absence of an employment regulation order for the coach sector, the proliferation of licences issued by the National Transport Authority for inter-city routes and the absence of a proper inspectorate into the running of private coach operations has fuelled a ‘race to the bottom’ based on the more intensive exploitation of workers;

— the workers, from whom a cut in take home pay of up to 30% is being demanded under threat of the closure of the company, are blameless for the financial position of Bus Éireann;

— the performance of an adequately funded comprehensive inter-city and rural bus network cannot be discerned from its balance sheet but by the connectivity it provides for rural communities and the elderly, the reduction of carbon emissions and easing traffic congestion; and

— the position of the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport and the Government on the Bus Éireann dispute runs contrary to the aspirations they claim are enshrined in the Action Plan for Rural Ireland;calls on the Government to:— commit to the importance of a public sector transport network that is adequately funded;

— reverse the cuts in the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport subsidy, as a first step, and increase the Department of Social Protection contribution towards the free travel commensurate with the patronising of Bus Éireann by those entitled to free travel;

— not apply any charge towards the free travel pass on the elderly and other vulnerable groups; and

— introduce an employment regulation order for the bus sector with pay and conditions no lower than those currently enjoyed by Bus Éireann workers; andviews strike action by the workers as an entirely appropriate response to the actions of Bus Éireann management and commits to support them in their struggle to save their jobs, pay and conditions.”

Amendment put:

The Dáil divided: Tá, 37; Staon, 1; Níl, 97.


Tellers: Tá, Deputies Mick Barry and Gino Kenny; Níl, Deputies Michael Moynihan and John Lahart.

Gerry Adams, Mick Barry, Richard Boyd Barrett, John Brady, Pat Buckley, Joan Collins, Michael Collins, Catherine Connolly, Ruth Coppinger, Seán Crowe, David Cullinane, Clare Daly, Pearse Doherty, Dessie Ellis, Martin Ferris, Michael Fitzmaurice, Séamus Healy, Gino Kenny, Martin Kenny, Mary Lou McDonald, Catherine Martin, Denise Mitchell, Imelda Munster, Catherine Murphy, Eoin Ó Broin, Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin, Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire, Aengus Ó Snodaigh, Jonathan O'Brien, Louise O'Reilly, Thomas Pringle, Maurice Quinlivan, Róisín Shortall, Bríd Smith, Brian Stanley, Peadar Tóibín, Mick Wallace.

Níl

Bobby Aylward, Maria Bailey, Seán Barrett, John Brassil, Declan Breathnach, Pat Breen, Colm Brophy, James Browne, Richard Bruton, Peter Burke, Joan Burton, Mary Butler, Catherine Byrne, Thomas Byrne, Jackie Cahill, Dara Calleary, Seán Canney, Ciarán Cannon, Joe Carey, Shane Cassells, Jack Chambers, Lisa Chambers, Marcella Corcoran Kennedy, Barry Cowen, Michael Creed, John Curran, Michael D'Arcy, John Deasy, Pat Deering, Regina Doherty, Paschal Donohoe, Timmy Dooley, Andrew Doyle, Bernard Durkan, Alan Farrell, Frances Fitzgerald, Peter Fitzpatrick, Pat Gallagher, Brendan Griffin, John Halligan, Simon Harris, Seán Haughey, Danny Healy-Rae, Martin Heydon, Heather Humphreys, Paul Kehoe, Billy Kelleher, Alan Kelly, Seán Kyne, John Lahart, James Lawless, Michael Lowry, Marc MacSharry, Charlie McConalogue, Helen McEntee, Finian McGrath, Michael McGrath, John McGuinness, Joe McHugh, Tony McLoughlin, Josepha Madigan, Micheál Martin, Mary Mitchell O'Connor, Kevin Moran, Aindrias Moynihan, Michael Moynihan, Margaret Murphy O'Mahony, Dara Murphy, Eoghan Murphy, Eugene Murphy, Hildegarde Naughton, Tom Neville, Michael Noonan, Darragh O'Brien, Éamon Ó Cuív, Jim O'Callaghan, Kate O'Connell, Willie O'Dea, Patrick O'Donovan, Fergus O'Dowd, Kevin O'Keeffe, Fiona O'Loughlin, Frank O'Rourke, Jan O'Sullivan, Willie Penrose, John Paul Phelan, Michael Ring, Noel Rock, Shane Ross, Brendan Ryan, Eamon Scanlon, Seán Sherlock, Brendan Smith, Niamh Smyth, David Stanton, Robert Troy, Katherine Zappone.

Staon

Maureen O'Sullivan.

Amendment declared lost.

Motion, as amended, put and declared carried.