Dáil debates
Wednesday, 14 October 2015
An Bille um an gCúigiú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Tréimhse Shocraithe le haghaidh Ré Dháil Éireann) 2015: An Chéad Chéim - Thirty-fifth Amendment of the Constitution (Fixed Period for the Duration of Dáil Éireann) Bill 2015: First Stage
11:40 am
Shane Ross (Dublin South, Independent)
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Tairgim:
Go gceadófar go dtabharfar isteach Bille dá ngairtear Acht chun an Bunreacht a leasú.
I move:
That leave be granted to introduce a Bill entitled an Act to amend the Constitution.
This is a very simple and straightforward Bill to amend the Constitution to provide for a fixed Dáil term and to remove the power of the Taoiseach to decide the date of the dissolution.
Shane Ross (Dublin South, Independent)
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Or the Tánaiste, as the case may be. I am putting this forward because it is a matter of great public concern. This process has been brought into disrepute in recent times, particularly by the present Taoiseach. The equivocation about the general election and the frenzy which has followed have persuaded many that the system we operate, whereby the Taoiseach of this country has the power to dissolve the Dáil and choose an election date, is unfair and gives an unfair advantage to the party in power.
11:50 am
Derek Keating (Dublin Mid West, Fine Gael)
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Why would he not do it?
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Quiet, please.
Shane Ross (Dublin South, Independent)
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It also means-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Hold on-----
Shane Ross (Dublin South, Independent)
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It was those Fine Gael Deputies who last week were calling for a general election.
Shane Ross (Dublin South, Independent)
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They were the ones who were so disappointed with what the Taoiseach did last week. They are the ones who are cheering him so loudly today.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Would Deputies, please, mind staying quiet?
Shane Ross (Dublin South, Independent)
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If the Taoiseach had been able to make up his mind on what day he would call the general election, they would not have been sitting there last week kicking up about it. The Labour Party contributed to this unseemly decision which was taken in the face of a media frenzy that the Taoiseach was conjuring up.
Marcella Corcoran Kennedy (Laois-Offaly, Fine Gael)
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The Deputy generated it.
Shane Ross (Dublin South, Independent)
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It encouraged it and-----
Billy Kelleher (Cork North Central, Fianna Fail)
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It was flushed out.
Shane Ross (Dublin South, Independent)
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-----now today they are looking for a general election in February, not November. The Taoiseach has the power but equivocated. I am asking that we take it away from him.
Finian McGrath (Dublin North Central, Independent)
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Give it back to the people in a democratic revolution.
Anthony Lawlor (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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Your hero, Charlie-----
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Will the Deputy, please-----
Anthony Lawlor (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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I am sorry, a Cheann Comhairle.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I have to sit through this also. I ask Deputy Shane Ross to proceed with his contribution.
Finian McGrath (Dublin North Central, Independent)
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It is very hard, a Cheann Comhairle.
Shane Ross (Dublin South, Independent)
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It is very difficult.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy is well able for it. As his neighbour next door is an expert at it, he should get some tips from him.
Shane Ross (Dublin South, Independent)
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The problem is there is an abuse of executive power and it is embedded in the Constitution. Every Taoiseach has looked - as the Taoiseach did last week - at opinion polls-----
Paschal Donohoe (Dublin Central, Fine Gael)
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The Deputy looks at them. How much did he spend on them?
Shane Ross (Dublin South, Independent)
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-----and decided on the date of the general election, depending, simply and solely, on his own popularity.
Derek Keating (Dublin Mid West, Fine Gael)
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The Deputy would like to be Taoiseach without authority and responsibility.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Will the Deputy, please, stay quiet?
Shane Ross (Dublin South, Independent)
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Last week the Taoiseach said he would make the decision in the national interest. One day he decided in the national interest that it would be held in November but the next he decided in the national interest that it would be held in February.
Shane Ross (Dublin South, Independent)
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What he was really deciding was that holding it in November would be in the interests of Fine Gael, but then the Tánaiste came in and put a bit of pressure on him. He backed off to the absolute disgust of his own backbenchers and decided to hold it in February. This behaviour must stop and there is only one way of doing so. It would mean removing that power from the Taoiseach-----
Billy Kelleher (Cork North Central, Fianna Fail)
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And giving it to the Tánaiste.
Shane Ross (Dublin South, Independent)
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-----by amending the Constitution and providng for a fixed term.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Will the Deputy, please, stay quiet?
Finian McGrath (Dublin North Central, Independent)
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Fixed terms - that would be a democratic revolution.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Is the Bill being opposed?
Enda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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It is not, but I remind the Deputy that it is the President who dissolves the Dáil on the request of the Taoiseach and that he can refuse, if he so wishes.
Shane Ross (Dublin South, Independent)
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I thank the Taoiseach.
Bernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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It is a major achievement.
Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Since this is a Private Members' Bill, Second Stage must, under Standing Orders, be taken in Private Members' time.
Shane Ross (Dublin South, Independent)
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Tairgim: "Go dtógfar an Bille in am Comhaltaí Príobháideacha."
I move: "That the Bill be taken in Private Members' time."