Dáil debates

Tuesday, 23 June 2015

5:40 pm

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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It is proposed to take No. 11, motion re referral to joint committee of proposed approval by Dáil Éireann of the Educational Research Centre (Establishment) Order 2015; No. 12, motion re employment Equality (Amendment) Bill 2015; No. 34, statements on the European Council meeting of 25-26 June; and No. 1, National Minimum Wage (Low Pay Commission) Bill 2015 [Seanad] - Second Stage.

It is proposed, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, that Nos. 11 and 12 shall be decided without debate; No. 34 shall be taken immediately following the Order of Business and the proceedings thereon shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion after 65 minutes and the following arrangements shall apply: the statements made by the Taoiseach and by the main spokespersons for Fianna Fáil, Sinn Féin and the Technical Group, who shall be called upon in that order and who may share time, shall not exceed 15 minutes in each case; a Minister or Minister of State shall be called upon to make a statement in reply which shall not exceed five minutes; and the order shall resume with Topical Issues. Private Members' business shall be No. 198, motion re credit unions.

Tomorrow's business after Oral Questions shall be No. 35, Communications Regulation (Postal Services) (Amendment) Bill 2015 - Order for Report, Report and Final Stages; No. 1, National Minimum Wage (Low Pay Commission) Bill 2015, back from the Seanad - Second Stage; No. 2, Criminal Justice (Mutual Assistance) (Amendment) Bill 2014 [Seanad] - Second Stage; and No. 36, Children (Amendment) Bill 2015 [Seanad] - Second Stage (Resumed).

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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There are two proposals to be put to the House. Is the proposal for dealing with No. 11, motion re referral to joint committee of the Educational Research Centre (Establishment) Order 2015, and No. 12, motion re Employment Equality (Amendment) Bill 2015, without debate, agreed? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with No. 34, statements on pre-European Council meeting of 25-26 June, agreed? Agreed.

Photo of Micheál MartinMicheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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Will the Taoiseach confirm that the Government will suspend the revaluation of properties for local property tax until, at least, 2020, so that many thousands of families will not face a local property tax bill bombshell next year? There is huge concern out there in terms of the revaluation that is taking place. Media reports demonstrate a growing awareness of the problem across the country. People are beginning to realise they could face crippling property tax bills as house prices have increased dramatically. Dublin based families and urban based families will be particularly hard hit. Perhaps the Taoiseach will indicate when legislation will come forward? The design of the property tax regime was flawed from day one. The link to property prices makes little sense and it takes absolutely no account of people's ability to pay. There is much hardship involved here and I would appreciate clarity in respect of the Government's legislative programme on this issue.

I refer to the Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill, reports today from ALONE and the programme for Government, page six of which states that investment in the supply of more and better care for older people in the community and in residential settings will be a priority of the Government, that additional funding will be provided each year for the care of older people and that funding will go to more residential places, more home care packages and the delivery of home help and other professional community care services. It also refers to the review of the fair deal scheme with a view to developing a secure and equitable system of financing for community and long-term care. None of that has happened. I do not think the review of the fair deal scheme has been published. ALONE and Age Action say that older people are extremely disappointed at not getting the supports they need to allow them stay in their own homes. According to ALONE, about one third of older people who live in nursing homes would be able to live in their own homes if properly supported. At the core of ALONE's proposals is a commitment to introduce a social contract for the elderly, whereby the over 65s could continue to live in their own homes, if possible. Will the Taoiseach indicate, albeit he has only about six months left in this Government-----

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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Is it six months?

Photo of Micheál MartinMicheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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One more budget, to all intents and purposes. The bottom line is that he did not provide additional funding to older people but actually cut it back savagely. He did not provide additional supply and better care for older people in the community and in residential settings. He has not, to my knowledge, published the fair deal review. We had the appalling situation last year where people had to wait 15 weeks. When are we going to get some action on the programme for Government in respect of the elderly? What is the Taoiseach's position on the comments of Age Action and ALONE?

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I have no intention of changing the legislation in respect of the periods of Government, which are five years. The Constitution provides for seven years, in a real emergency. The Deputy can rest easy. I have no intention of changing the legislation.

Photo of Micheál MartinMicheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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On property tax.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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In respect of property tax, I am glad there has been an increase in property prices which takes many people locked in negative equity for a number of years out of that particular trap. There will be no change in the design of the valuation of properties until 2017. The Minister for Finance is conscious of the increase in property prices and has asked Dr. Don Thornhill who did extensive work on the drafting of the property valuations in the first place to present a report to him. That report is in the process of being finalised. There will be ample opportunity for the Government to consider the best options open to it. There will be no change in the property valuations until 2017. The Minister for Finance expects to have the Thornhill report soon.

We referred earlier to the fair deal scheme and the extra moneys that were allocated. The waiting period is down from 11 weeks to four weeks. The Minister has received that report and is considering it. Obviously, it will be published in due course.

Photo of Micheál MartinMicheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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The Minister is saying that for six months.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I have referred to the situation in so far as the elderly are concerned, home care packages and opportunities for people to stay in their own homes as long as that is practicable. Obviously, the Minister will answer questions on this particular issue on a number of occasions.

Photo of Gerry AdamsGerry Adams (Louth, Sinn Fein)
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Tá dhá cheist agam. One is about the marriage equality Bill and the other is about the Good Friday Agreement and the programme for Government commitment to the free implementation of that agreement. The Taoiseach will recall that last week I raised the issue of collusion and urged him to hold a debate on this important issue. He said he might divide the time for a debate on the North to include a debate on the Ballymurphy motion. He will recall that the Ballymurphy families are seeking a distinct and dedicated debate on the Ballymurphy massacre. They have told the Taoiseach and the Government that is their preference. They recalled to me that the Taoiseach gave them a commitment when he met them in Ballymurphy in March that they would have their own debate. There is also a need for a separate debate on collusion as that is a hugely important issue in its right. I note the Taoiseach raised the issue with the British Prime Minister last week.

Most immediately, we have a building crisis in the political institutions in the North. Yesterday's decision by Sinn Féin to give conditional support for the budget (no. 2) Bill gives some space to implement the Stormont House Agreement. That is an opportunity which should not be squandered. The Government as a co-equal guarantor has a crucial role to ensure this. I note the Minister for Foreign Affairs acknowledged the crisis facing the institutions if outstanding issues are not resolved. I ask the Taoiseach to give us some indication as to whether the debates I have outlined will be accommodated as soon as possible?

In regard to the marriage equality Bill, it is five weeks since that historic vote which saw citizens vote for marriage equality in overwhelming numbers. It was a hugely compassionate decision in favour of equality. We were told it would be enacted by the end of July. The Bill has not been published.

The Bills Office said yesterday it did not expect it any time soon. Why is it taking so long to draft a Bill on the referendum result, given that we have only four weeks before the Dáil rises? Can the Taoiseach provide some certainty about the publication of the Bill and the timetable required to get it through the Dáil and Seanad?

5:50 pm

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The Dáil debate on Northern Ireland and Ballymurphy will take place, in whichever form is most appropriate, before the House rises. I give the Deputy that guarantee.

Everybody was pleased with the outcome of the referendum on marriage equality. The Bill cannot be published until the court makes its decision. It is before the court. If it was not before the court we would have the Bill before the House to deal with and have it enacted before the summer recess. I cannot comment on how long that will take. I hope there is a speedy and clear outcome.

Photo of Michael Healy-RaeMichael Healy-Rae (Kerry South, Independent)
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I implore the Taoiseach with regard to the health reform Bill, the number of people awaiting cataract operations on their eyes-----

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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For God’s sake, Deputy.

Photo of Michael Healy-RaeMichael Healy-Rae (Kerry South, Independent)
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Surely be to God, in the health reform Bill we should allow for a situation where people who need these operations will be dealt with and will not have to wait two and three years.

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Maybe the Deputy would put down a parliamentary question or a topical issue. The Deputy cannot do this on the Order of Business every day.

Photo of Michael Healy-RaeMichael Healy-Rae (Kerry South, Independent)
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It is under the health reform Bill.

Photo of Paul KehoePaul Kehoe (Wexford, Fine Gael)
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It is parish pump politics. It is not for this Chamber.

Photo of Michael Healy-RaeMichael Healy-Rae (Kerry South, Independent)
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The Government has made promises and I know the Ceann Comhairle respects promises.

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy can put down a topical issue.

Photo of Michael Healy-RaeMichael Healy-Rae (Kerry South, Independent)
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I am talking about people who are going blind in hospital and waiting at home to have cataract operations to be carried out.

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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That is not for the Order of Business. There is a time limit. I thank the Deputy.

Photo of Michael Healy-RaeMichael Healy-Rae (Kerry South, Independent)
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This is a serious issue and I would like the Taoiseach to address it.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I do not have a date for that Bill. The issue of the operations is a different matter.

Photo of Michael Healy-RaeMichael Healy-Rae (Kerry South, Independent)
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What about the people waiting for cataract operations?

Photo of Frank FeighanFrank Feighan (Roscommon-South Leitrim, Fine Gael)
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When will the apprenticeship Bill come before the House?

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The Minister for Education and Skills took consultations on this and received quite a lot of observations, I think 90 in all. Those analysed proposals will come before the Cabinet before it rises for the summer.

Photo of James BannonJames Bannon (Longford-Westmeath, Fine Gael)
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Scrap and precious metal thieves are roaming around the countryside. We heard the comments of the former president of the Irish Farmers Association, IFA, last week on who will be catching them if action is not taken shortly.

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I did not hear them but what Bill is the Deputy talking about?

Photo of James BannonJames Bannon (Longford-Westmeath, Fine Gael)
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A Private Member’s Bill was brought in last year. Is there any legislation pending in this area?

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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No. Deputy Mattie McGrath raised this on several occasions. I do not have a date for publication of the Bill.

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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How is Deputy Mattie McGrath’s scrap metal Bill?

A Deputy:

The Taoiseach is sitting on it like he sits on everything else.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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We might say it is rattling on.

Photo of Gerald NashGerald Nash (Louth, Labour)
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Deputy Mattie McGrath is sitting on it and talking out of it as well.

Photo of Bernard DurkanBernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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The Garda Síochána (Malicious Injuries Compensation) Bill 2012 has been promised for some time. In view of the fact that gardaí risk life and limb and have suffered many injuries in the course of their duty and sometimes when off duty, to what extent, if any, is the Bill being ushered quickly forward to bring it before the House as soon as possible?

Have the heads of the environment liability Bill 2008, is to give effect to the Environmental Liability Directive, which will have wide implications for this country, been cleared and when is it likely to come before the House?

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The heads of those two Bills were brought before Cabinet, the Garda Síochána (Malicious Injuries Compensation) Bill in 2012 and is expected to be published in the second half of this year. The heads of the environmental liability Bill 2008 were cleared some time ago but I cannot give the Deputy a date for publication yet.

Photo of Dessie EllisDessie Ellis (Dublin North West, Sinn Fein)
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Are there any plans to include in forthcoming legislation the Irish Aviation Authority safety measures on short-haul flights Bill, which will include the compulsory carrying of a defibrillator? Long-haul flights carry them but short-haul ones do not. There was a tragedy recently between here and Spain where a defibrillator was required.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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There is quite a deal of consultation going on about that. The heads have not been cleared yet and therefore I cannot give Deputy Ellis a date for publication but I will ask the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport to update him on its current state of preparation.

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Fianna Fail)
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Across the country tens of thousands of young people are completing their Central Applications Office, CAO, forms. What is happening to the higher education Bill that has been promised?

We know there is a crisis in the apprenticeship area, notwithstanding the consultations the Minister for Education and Skills has engaged in. Can the Taoiseach give the House an undertaking that the apprenticeship Bill will see the light of day before this Government ceases its term of office?

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I want that to happen.

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Fianna Fail)
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Can the Taoiseach not get what he wants?

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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This is an important issue. The Government has given substantial backing to SOLAS, the Further Education and Training Authority. The Minister of State for Education and Skills is working very diligently on this. He has taken into account all of the 90 public consultation propositions. It is critical to provide new opportunities for apprenticeships and new ways for young people. I want the Deputy to understand that this is a priority I want to see happen. I am very anxious that it be drafted and approved as quickly as possible.

The heads of the higher education Bill are being drafted and it should be published in the latter part of the year.

Photo of Tony McLoughlinTony McLoughlin (Sligo-North Leitrim, Fine Gael)
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On Tuesday last and this afternoon I attended meetings of the Oireachtas Joint Committee on the Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht where discussions took place on the establishment of an electoral commission and it was quite worrying to hear about the many issues in our current system, particularly the registration process. The Taoiseach might be aware I raised similar issues here after last year’s local elections, where there were some problems with the supplementary register process in County Leitrim. When will the electoral commission Bill be published and brought before the House for debate? It is something this country needs.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The consultation paper is before the committee. That is why Deputies are entitled to give their views on it. Following that analysis the Bill will be drafted. It is an important issue.

Photo of Joe CareyJoe Carey (Clare, Fine Gael)
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I want to inquire about No. 116 on the Order Paper, the Family Court Bill and No. 117, the family law Bill.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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A deal of work has been done on both of these Bills but I cannot give a date for their publication. I will ask the Minister for Justice and Equality to update the Deputy on their state of preparation.

Photo of Mattie McGrathMattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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Under the Health (General Practitioners Service) Bill 2014 regarding doctors and the free GP care for children under six, only three GPs in South Tipperary have signed up to this scheme. Does the Taoiseach have a plan B to deal with this situation?

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Plan B is to ask by way of a parliamentary question.

Photo of Mattie McGrathMattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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In Tipperary primary health care they are good people and want to look after their patients but they are being forced, coerced and bullied and the Minister for Health took to tweeting 20 of them at the weekend to cop on. Is this good language for a Minister?

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Bill has gone for signature by the President.

Photo of Mattie McGrathMattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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That does not matter.

I have another item about the tweeting system.

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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What tweeting system?

Photo of Mattie McGrathMattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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The Minister of State at the Department of Justice and Equality, Deputy Ó Ríordáin, today sent a terribly insulting tweet to people who happen to be pro-life.

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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We do not deal with tweets on the Order of Business.

Photo of Mattie McGrathMattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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The Taoiseach will have to deal with them because the Order of Business will soon be done by tweet and Government business will be done by tweet. It is outrageous.

Photo of Paul KehoePaul Kehoe (Wexford, Fine Gael)
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I have bound him to the peace.

Photo of Mattie McGrathMattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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Will the Taoiseach rein in his Ministers?

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy should settle down.

Photo of Paul KehoePaul Kehoe (Wexford, Fine Gael)
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I have bound him to the peace.

Photo of Mattie McGrathMattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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Is it going to be Government by tweet?

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy is not as young as he used to be. He should not be driving up his blood pressure.

Photo of Mattie McGrathMattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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Government by twits would be more like it.

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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We will not deal with tweets now.

Photo of Paul KehoePaul Kehoe (Wexford, Fine Gael)
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I have bound him to the peace.

Photo of Robert TroyRobert Troy (Longford-Westmeath, Fianna Fail)
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When will all the elements of the Education for Persons with Special Educational Needs Act 2004 be enacted to ensure that it will be compulsory for all early years settings to facilitate children with special educational needs?

The National Vetting Bureau (Children and Vulnerable Persons) Act 2012 was passed by the Houses of the Oireachtas almost two years ago but it has yet to be commenced. Can the Taoiseach indicate when it will be commenced?

The legislation on aftercare has not yet been published, while the Children First Bill has only reached Committee Stage. Despite the Government's promise to complete the legislation when it assumed office four and a half years ago, we are still awaiting a timeframe for debating and improving this much watered-down Bill.

6:00 pm

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I remember asking questions many years ago about elements of the Education for Persons with Special Educational Needs Act which had not yet been commenced. I will revert to Deputy Troy on the matter.

In respect of the vetting legislation, some of the relevant measures are being incorporated in the spent convictions Bill, which is being prepared. I will advise Deputy Troy later of the current state of progress with the Bill.

Photo of Robert TroyRobert Troy (Longford-Westmeath, Fianna Fail)
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What is the position with regard to the after care legislation and Children First Bill?

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The Children First Bill is still going through the House and is on Report Stage.